120g FW tank. Astronotus ID anyone?

[Soil]

Thanks everyone Im thinking on adding a piece of floating wood. Ima get some update pics later, maybe with a few more inches on the O's

 

[LobstersGoPeenchPeench]

i think its a wild one from the patterning. see mine has the same finnage designs wbut with more red/orange speckles but his tiger pattern is white.

 

[Soil]

i think its a wild one from the patterning. see mine has the same finnage designs wbut with more red/orange speckles but his tiger pattern is white.

Do you have any pics of it? Ive googled the net forever but I cant find any with those characteristics. Mine is getting more and more orange within the stripes. Its about 13cm atm (5"+)

 

[craig_uk]

Evening Gentlemen.

Just a quick update. Saw an oscar on here and have done a little research. Seems its been classified as a colour morph known as "Sunni Lake"

Always nice to put a face to a name eh?

As for your oscar Soil, it seems, based on the pics youve posted earlier that it is infact a Astronotus orbicularis, see the pic i posted on the 2nd page for a full grown adult.

Best of luck with it
Craggy

 

[artemis1]

You have a typical oscar, astronotus occelatus. The unusual jaw is just an individual trait, nothing too special. NOT A. orbicularis or A. crassipinnis. Only two A. orbilucaris have ever been caught, so they are not a valid species yet. The genus astronotus is up for "renovation" and it will likely include orbicularis (or orbiculatus as it is sometimes called).

He's not F0 either though, wild oscars have pretty much zero red coloration, and you would have paid a very hefty price for him.

Cheers,
art

 

[craig_uk]

Only two A. orbilucaris have ever been caught, so they are not a valid species yet.

Really!!? Every Days a school day eh?

Rather shamefully, i went back and searched through the OPs first pics. Looking at the last one (the one with the red)... I was way off. it is just a common oscar.

The dark pic threw me way off. Sorry for the confusion Gents. Guess i just got my hopes up

Craggy

 

[Danger_Chicken]

Woa, thats a huge change in coloration. Would never figure a kid like that to turn out normal ^^ Live and learn. Nice O!

Nah it would still be within the same genus, astronotus - if that what you ment with not a true hybrid? Im all new breeding stuff. Some say it is possible to crossbreed between two different genus, but Im not sure what kind of fish would be suitable to put in there. If the two I have now pair of It would be a tiger/red cross, but I guess its not a hybrid unless the tiger isnt ocellatus

I don't see anything wrong with it. You're not really hybridizing but breeding the same species for color. I have a wild caught I love to see breed with my Lemon or Platnium. I'd hope it kept the solid body color of the lemon or paltnium and patterns of the F0.

F0 from Ecudor

Platnium

Lemon (he's bigger and brighter now)

Evening Gentlemen.

Just a quick update. Saw an oscar on here and have done a little research. Seems its been classified as a colour morph known as "Sunni Lake"

Always nice to put a face to a name eh?

As for your oscar Soil, it seems, based on the pics youve posted earlier that it is infact a Astronotus orbicularis, see the pic i posted on the 2nd page for a full grown adult.

Best of luck with it
Craggy

He looks like a baby Tiger. Most baby O's ahve that marbled pattern. Here's a pic of my wild caught at a little over an inch. He's changed completely

Here's a 9" wild caught that snookn21 was selling
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173110

 

[Soil]

Now I'm kinda even more confused ^^ what is the definition of a tiger / wild oscar? The 9" in the last picture looks just like mine, exept it has less orange. Both yours and that one does have some colored scales..

- If two f0's with exeptionally much color would be bread for a more orange O, would the fry still be f0?

I don't see anything wrong with it. You're not really hybridizing but breeding the same species for color. I have a wild caught I love to see breed with my Lemon or Platnium. I'd hope it kept the solid body color of the lemon or paltnium and patterns of the F0.

Please update if that ever happens. I'd love to see a 'platinum tiger f0 whatever' :0

 

[Deepsouth]

Very nice tank. Love the driftwood as well.

 

[cichlidinsomniac]

You have a typical oscar, astronotus occelatus. The unusual jaw is just an individual trait, nothing too special. NOT A. orbicularis or A. crassipinnis. Only two A. orbilucaris have ever been caught, so they are not a valid species yet. The genus astronotus is up for "renovation" and it will likely include orbicularis (or orbiculatus as it is sometimes called).

He's not F0 either though, wild oscars have pretty much zero red coloration, and you would have paid a very hefty price for him.

Cheers,
art

only two have been caught where did you get that from, jeff rapps was selling some orbilucaris like a year ago he has also sold crasspinis; please don't post total bs to increase your post count http://tangledupincichlids.com/images/orbic5.jpg http://tangledupincichlids.com/images/crassip2.jpg