1st try at sump filtration

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Hybridtheory: yes that is the flow of my proposed sump.
the design you offered doesnt hold enough mechanical for me, i dont need mountains of bio as im not going to be running a tank with monster sized preds, im only adding a few more bichirs and a school of something no larger than 6".
while not a sump expert, i have to agree with PCG about concerns for the water getting evenly distributed over the drip plate. ive seen the thread with this design on and concerns were raised about the same thing in the thread.

can you also elaborate on your concerns about my sumps functionality please.
 
I think the diagram in post #15 will work. I personally wouldn't have the extra location for just the heater, but that is trivial.

Your overflows should be good to go with the pump that you are planning to use.
 
Pharaoh;3550883; said:
I think the diagram in post #15 will work. I personally wouldn't have the extra location for just the heater, but that is trivial.

Your overflows should be good to go with the pump that you are planning to use.
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the first location isnt specifically for the heater, it is just there because thats where i put it. i was thinking of moving the heater to the end but like you say its trivial.

thank you for your help guys. it is much appreciated.
 
Pharaoh;3550883; said:
I think the diagram in post #15 will work. I personally wouldn't have the extra location for just the heater, but that is trivial.

Your overflows should be good to go with the pump that you are planning to use.
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I think it is a good idea for the heater to go in that place due to it being a place that will never run dry making it safe that the heater will never burn up. It will also be out of the way so you dont have to wory about moving bio meda to get to it fast if need be or have it rub on the pump and make noise.
 
PCG Aquariums;3550414; said:
Id be worried about the water not going all the way out on the drip plate in this one leaving most of the meda void of moving water.
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Yes that sump design does demand good craftsman ship upon building. Getting the drip plate level is number one concern.

I also lay white felt on top of the drip tray to polish the water and rescrict the flow to where the water builds up around 1/4" ontop of the plate. The distribution is 100% on top of the plate.
 
cichlid2006;3550488; said:
Hybridtheory: yes that is the flow of my proposed sump.
the design you offered doesnt hold enough mechanical for me, i dont need mountains of bio as im not going to be running a tank with monster sized preds, im only adding a few more bichirs and a school of something no larger than 6".
while not a sump expert, i have to agree with PCG about concerns for the water getting evenly distributed over the drip plate. ive seen the thread with this design on and concerns were raised about the same thing in the thread.

can you also elaborate on your concerns about my sumps functionality please.
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It may function fine. IDK

but it looks like the heater portion would be very ineffecient because the water will enter and exit in the same spot. Instead of flow thru that compartment.

Then the water will flow from the bottom up thru the mechanical filtration media. And any heavier debris will just fall onto the floor to rot.

It just looks as if you are trying to mechanically filter in 3 seperate locations but doing the same thing.

Maybe its just different and not a bad different.
 
hybridtheoryd16;3552904; said:
It may function fine. IDK

but it looks like the heater portion would be very ineffecient because the water will enter and exit in the same spot. Instead of flow thru that compartment.

Then the water will flow from the bottom up thru the mechanical filtration media. And any heavier debris will just fall onto the floor to rot.

It just looks as if you are trying to mechanically filter in 3 seperate locations but doing the same thing.

Maybe its just different and not a bad different.
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I have all my heaters in the first chamber and it works just fine the water going in to the fuge gets pushed down and so you do not end up with the water just seting also since the heaters are not made for flowing water like a in line heater they have to work 5 times harder to heat the same water this way they heat the standing water that is not flowing as fast giving more contact time like what is need with this heater.
 
after going over my sump plan i realised that as the water was going to be pushing up through the media it would leave a lot of crap underneath the media. also, the top mats would probably be quite clean but i would have to dig around and get the bottom mats out for maintenance.
after a bit of revision i have come up with this:
new sump plan pic.jpg
this should be maintained far more easily than my previous attempt as all the water is flowing down through the media, leaving very little crap under the sections to rot.

any comments?

thanks in advance.
 
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