All i know is blue rams are a VERY sensative fish like if you have something just a tad bit off it potentially hurts them / kills them so i generally stay away from them cause of that reason
2 Blue Rams died one night... Ideas?
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i have bolivian rams and balloon rams. i have tried german blue rams and gold rams but they never seem to make it. i personally think that those rams are just very picky about water conditions. i was told the balloons wouldnt last because they are a deformity but they have outlasted 3 batches of rams(2 german blue and 1 golden). my bolivians and everything else do fine to include my royal plec.
IMO, blue rams are very sensitive. Your nitrate are to high for them. They need perfect water condition.
k0y0te;4666733; said:
I'd agree with this, blue rams are very nitrate sensitive and 20ppm would not be good for them. The lower temp wouldn't help either, 84F or higher is recommended.
Most german blues are asian pond bred and don't ship well, so there is usually a high die off when first bought. Their sensitivity and shipping doesn't always mix well. It's hard to locate healthy ones at most LFS.
stingy return policy?
Ours is limited 24 hours.
99.99% the fish are are perfectly health before leaving our shop/hatchery but once they go out the door its out of our control.
Long time ago had longer guarantees but to much abuse that I could not afford to be a revolving door & taken advantage of.
me
Ours is limited 24 hours.
99.99% the fish are are perfectly health before leaving our shop/hatchery but once they go out the door its out of our control.
Long time ago had longer guarantees but to much abuse that I could not afford to be a revolving door & taken advantage of.
me
I'm going to assume that younger/smaller rams are probably more sensitive too... right? I may slowly raise the temp up to ~84, but I definitely want to make sure it's not going affect the pleco/pictus first. I'll probably try for rams again in a month or so when the store has more, or see if I can find a few different people with fry for less.
I've kept my Rams going healthy for about a year now, and here is what I have done, based on some research I did:
> Ph below 7.0, try to keep it around 6.4
> nitrates as close to zero as possible, and no higher than 10ppm
> heavily planted tank (this also helps with nitrates)
> temps above 80 ... around 85 is better
following the above approach, I've had minimal problems ... but even under the best care, I don't expect Rams to live more than 3 years at most anyway
frankly, once these have died, I doubt I'll keep them again ... they are very lovely fish, but somewhat too sensitive for my tastes ... I like fish that can tolerate mistakes a little better
> Ph below 7.0, try to keep it around 6.4
> nitrates as close to zero as possible, and no higher than 10ppm
> heavily planted tank (this also helps with nitrates)
> temps above 80 ... around 85 is better
following the above approach, I've had minimal problems ... but even under the best care, I don't expect Rams to live more than 3 years at most anyway
frankly, once these have died, I doubt I'll keep them again ... they are very lovely fish, but somewhat too sensitive for my tastes ... I like fish that can tolerate mistakes a little better
I'm going to boost the temp, but I'm debating the planted aspect. I'd love to do a heavily planted tank with a fluorite black sand substrate, but I don't quite want to upgrade my lighting yet because I'm definitely upgrading my tank in a year or so, if not sooner. I'll keep the PH where it is. I may need to figure out a ghetto solution to lighting for the time being.
Don't know your LFS as well as you do, but a lot of the chain stores jack up the rams on hormones so they look great in the store and die a week later (when the effects wear off) and even besides that they are a hard fish to keep as is. My suggestion is get a stable tank thats been running for at least a few months. And just try 2 or so at a time, everything else your doing is right except id raise the temp some.
Tank's been up and running for ~1.5 years. I'm moving in to my apartment a month, so I'll just keep it going as is for now. It'll be my 3rd time moving it, and I usually end up keeping about half the water to prevent stress on the fish. As far as I know the LFS is pretty good. They have an awesome selection of salt and fresh, and prices aren't horrible.
On a side note, I'm considering something like flame moss (I had luck before, it took root in the gravel in another tank with horrible lighting) but I probably won't do that until I get around to changing the substrate. something about plants and gravel just sketches me out, because I feel the need to gravel vac.
I'm also only using one extension on the ac110 intake, rather than the 2 that come with it, because I'm testing the current throughout the tank. I really want to incorporate some type of shrimp into the setup without mincing them in the filter... I have an AC30 sitting around but I feel like that filter's a joke
On a side note, I'm considering something like flame moss (I had luck before, it took root in the gravel in another tank with horrible lighting) but I probably won't do that until I get around to changing the substrate. something about plants and gravel just sketches me out, because I feel the need to gravel vac.
I'm also only using one extension on the ac110 intake, rather than the 2 that come with it, because I'm testing the current throughout the tank. I really want to incorporate some type of shrimp into the setup without mincing them in the filter... I have an AC30 sitting around but I feel like that filter's a joke
