200 gallon tank.. the next step

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I'm still on the fence on this one. I think i'm going with a pressure canister and a supplimental w/d. The problem is, it's for a 1000 gal. I'm guessing for a 1000 gal w/d, I'd need around a 250gal sump.

The way I see it, a pressure filter removes sediment and solid waste and ammonia to a certain degree, that will be the primary filtration. The w/d will be with a 75/100 gal tupperware container and really function as the primary bio filtration. I already need 1 100 gal resevoir for the aged water (exchanging 100 gal daily to equal 250 2x a week, or 25%), so I'm already up there on square footage.

I don't see how I could use a w/d as the single filtration on a tank that size.

Any input?
 
wizzin;581041; said:
I'm still on the fence on this one. I think i'm going with a pressure canister and a supplimental w/d. The problem is, it's for a 1000 gal. I'm guessing for a 1000 gal w/d, I'd need around a 250gal sump. [...]Any input?
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Are you hijacking fishingaddict's thread? He was talking about his 200 gal, which is a completely different story. There is a huge difference in filtration complexity including circulation problems with a 1000 gal as compared to a 200 gal.

HarleyK
 
wizzin;581081; said:
jeeze. ok. sorry. delete my post. I won't ask again.
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That is not what I meant. If you have a question regarding your 1k gal set-up, simply start a new thread on your own. This is why we are all gathering here: To exchange knowledge and inspiration.

Your question simply does not fit into fishingaddict's thread.

Start a thread - You can do it - we can help :)

HarleyK
 
Size of the wet dry isn't as important as the fact that there is enough bio-media to handle the load.
 
wizzin;581041;581041 said:
I'm still on the fence on this one. I think i'm going with a pressure canister and a supplimental w/d. The problem is, it's for a 1000 gal. I'm guessing for a 1000 gal w/d, I'd need around a 250gal sump.

The way I see it, a pressure filter removes sediment and solid waste and ammonia to a certain degree, that will be the primary filtration. The w/d will be with a 75/100 gal tupperware container and really function as the primary bio filtration. I already need 1 100 gal resevoir for the aged water (exchanging 100 gal daily to equal 250 2x a week, or 25%), so I'm already up there on square footage.

I don't see how I could use a w/d as the single filtration on a tank that size.

Any input?
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Just so you know, cansiters don't remove ammonia, and neither does a w/d unless it has a refugium. Ammonia is converted to nitrite by the biomedia, and more specifically the bacteria housed within. A w/d actually is more efficient at this than a canister as oxygen is introduced via the air.
 
WyldFya;584928; said:
Just so you know, cansiters don't remove ammonia, and neither does a w/d unless it has a refugium. Ammonia is converted to nitrite by the biomedia, and more specifically the bacteria housed within. A w/d actually is more efficient at this than a canister as oxygen is introduced via the air.
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I understand the nitro cycle. Re-read what I said. A canister will remove primarily solids and limited ammonia (due to the limited BB it would house) and a W/D would remove more amonia because of the huge BB load they harbor. Or should I have said that a w/d will produce more nitrates than a canister?

I wasn't saying that these filters are magical and that ammonia is removed by little elves that live inside.
 
Neither filter "removes" ammonia, they convert it. In order to compare, you would have to have the same amount of bio-media, which for canisters would take a lot of canister filters. While canisters can remove a lot of solids, so can a w/d if built right. However, a canister isn't as easy to maintain for mech filtration as a HOB, say a AC110. For canisters to be effective mech filters you should be cleaning them out once a week at least, if you have messy eaters.
 
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