3-Bars Indo or ST? Part 2

[EKen53]

The bar doesn't really change direction towards the back at the bottom. It is a constant strait line that slightly slopes back as it goes down. Wide bars have more of a change of direction look on the bottom of that bar.

I am surprised that this post got so many hits, because to me there is no question that it is an IT. I do not see ANY Pulcher characteristics on that Dat at all.

Some people are taking this a bit to seriously. At the end of the day we do not need to take this home and will not win any money for guessing correctly so we should just give our opinions and not try to convince people to change there mind when they are obviously already set.

I will say that this is deffinitly one of the more entertaining threads in a while

Very true and well said. But then again, without all the drama, it would be a boring board...

 

[Eddie MunsterFishKeeper]

Do I need to take the fish out and take more pictures? seem like the pictures i post is not enough.

We do not need more pics. Are you gonna just keep taking pics untill everyone tells you what you want to hear? I agree with everyone else about the first one being an IT and second an ST.

These two fishes were considered the same.sp until '98. And it was stated that there were no morphological differences between these two species. So unless somone can tell us the capture point, Borneo and Sumatra vs. Mekong and Chao Phraya nobody can tell you for sure what they are.

I know you were seeking R1's opinion and now that you didn't agree with his answer, your asking for others to chime in. People have given their opinions and you refuse to acknowledge them, but keep asking for more input untill you hear what you want to hear. What exactly do you want to get from this thread?

 

[islander671]

These two fishes were considered the same.sp until '98. And it was stated that there were no morphological differences between these two species. So unless somone can tell us the capture point, Borneo and Sumatra vs. Mekong and Chao Phraya nobody can tell you for sure what they are.

Bingo! I was actually trying to find the article on the study that established D. Microlepis as 2 different species based on location. Its not uncommon to still find a Wide bar sold or published in books/mags as D. Microlepis in some countries. The price is commonly determined in the attractiveness of the fish or collection point. The collection point probably having alot to do with how the fish may look.

 

[StIcKy~RiCe]

We do not need more pics. Are you gonna just keep taking pics untill everyone tells you what you want to hear? I agree with everyone else about the first one being an IT and second an ST.

These two fishes were considered the same.sp until '98. And it was stated that there were no morphological differences between these two species. So unless somone can tell us the capture point, Borneo and Sumatra vs. Mekong and Chao Phraya nobody can tell you for sure what they are.

I know you were seeking R1's opinion and now that you didn't agree with his answer, your asking for others to chime in. People have given their opinions and you refuse to acknowledge them, but keep asking for more input untill you hear what you want to hear. What exactly do you want to get from this thread?

lol....i didn't ask anyone to tell me it was ST or wanted them to be ST. it's is what it's. you are rigth unless some one know the collection point, the fish are the same. I not looking for anything out from this thread beside other people opinion and how the way they ID dats that's all.

It's all about sharing knowledge and looking at different point of view.

Thank you all for this thread.

 

[T1KARMANN]

even thow the tail stripes are not a 100% ID its a good start point for IDing tigers

we cant debate this as much as you like some still think IT others think ST

so their will always be a unsure ID for this tiger

 

[TCZeli]

even thow the tail stripes are not a 100% ID its a good start point for IDing tigers

I agree completely!!!

I hate how recently some people refuse to even look at the tail stripes. When 90+% of IT's have 3 stripes, and 90+% of ST's have 2 stripes then it IS a good IDing tool. And i am being conservative with those %'s.
I understand it isn't 100% and people need to look at more then just the tail but it does help when making an ID.

 

[islander671]

Lol..this is the biggest discussion on Dat ID since the CT one awhile back.

 

[jlnguyen74]

I agree completely!!!

I hate how recently some people refuse to even look at the tail stripes. When 90+% of IT's have 3 stripes, and 90+% of ST's have 2 stripes then it IS a good IDing tool. And i am being conservative with those %'s.
I understand it isn't 100% and people need to look at more then just the tail but it does help when making an ID.

There's other factors to take in to consideration, but I would look at the tail stripe first when I'm going to flop my wallet out for an ST. BTW, I haven't seen one IT with 2 tail stripes yet

Lol..this is the biggest discussion on Dat ID since the CT one awhile back.

And that's how we all come together to share knowledge and learn

 

[TCZeli]

I haven't seen one IT with 2 tail stripes yet

I do not believe I have ever either

 

[Loubard]

I've learned to date only to care about whether it's stable or not.The bars don't mean anything to me anymore. It's the quality of color is what catches my eye now a days.

I agree 100 %.