3 INCH RED DEVIL WITH HIS NUCHAL BUMP ALREADY, and some other pics

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when those fish mature, it will be like having a family (mom, dad, 3 kids) all in a small bedroom. jut because there is no law against mistreating fish doesn't mean you should do it. god i hate when noobs have terribly overstocked tank and don't listen to the good avdvice that is given. this is the third one today:irked:
 
I agree the tank is overstocked. Get rid of all of the fish but one Rd and save for a 55 or 75.
 
I have a theory I've been working out, imagine your self in a room and how much it is to be comfartable in there by yourself no ad a wierd guy that stands in a corner for a pleco then put a fat person in there (nothing against fat people) for an oversized fish then add several kids for small fish now how comfartable are you
 
telluride91;1537772; said:
how do you have the right to tell somebody what they can and cant do. Its not animal cruelty, they live in a small tank. god damn
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It is animal cruelty, there's just no rules against it because it's so sadly common.

You're just another person that cares more about how much everything costs than they do about the fish they keep. This hobby isn't cheap no matter how you look at it, either learn to accept that or move on, I highly recommend keeping pet rocks.

Your tank seems fine for stocking as of now, but it won't be for much longer and you need to accept that Red Devils cannot stay in a 29 for long, and that you're either going to have to do a major tank upgrade (money), or just keep your Convict and maybe something else (free/profit).
 
Dude its arlight, they are small now, but just understand they grow. Imagine fitting the full grown versions of those fish in that tank is all they are saying. It wouldn't be pretty. THey would probably just be sitting there.
 
PoopSmart;1539469; said:
Dude its arlight, they are small now, but just understand they grow. Imagine fitting the full grown versions of those fish in that tank is all they are saying. It wouldn't be pretty. THey would probably just be sitting there.
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I agree. Pretty soon, you're either going to have to get rid of everything but the cons if you're going to have just the 29 or you're going to have to get rid of everything but probably one midas/rd and get a 75. or get much larger and you may be able to keep more than that. like i'm one to talk (look at my 55, lol).
 
telluride91;1537772; said:
how do you have the right to tell somebody what they can and cant do. Its not animal cruelty, they live in a small tank.
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Balton777 said:
If you care about the fish you will sell the RD's and keep the convicts unless in the next few months you upgrade to a minimum 75g tank. Otherwise you will stunt them. Their body stops growing but their organs continue to grow to normal proportions. This leads to an awful shortened life for your little pet. Let me show you what I mean. Here's a few pics of an adult Devil/Midas. This guy is 13"+TL and what seems like 3"thick. He seems cramped in this 135 gallon. IT DOES NOT BELONG IN A 29 GALLON TANK. It's your tank though and you can do whatever you want with it. There's no law against abusing fish. I'm sorry because I know that sounded ugly but it's the facts bro, c'mon. Well good luck whatever you decide to do.
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If you re-read the post I didn't tell you what to do. I merely showed you the potential growth of two of the 6 cichlids in your 29 gallon tank. I, along with every other experienced cichlid keeper here who has posted, are merely trying to help educate you for your benefit as well as the that of your fish. If you wish to ignore everyone's advice, it's your prerogative. I feel sorry for the fish though. It's through their misfortune and misery that you will gain your experience as a fishkeeper. I learned the hard way too when I was new but the difference is that the internet wasn't around and no one could advise me. Once again, good luck and best wishes in your fish keeping.
 
those fish look fine for now and dont look cramped because you have a great set up with many hiding spots. But these people are right, you need to get a bigger tank for them, but my guess on why you havent been able to upgrade is probably because of the usual: "My step dad wont let me get a bigger tank because fish are stupid, while he goes off and drives around in some fancy German import"..... typical.

p.s. : by my guess i'm probably the only the 2nd person that thinks you should get rid of the convicts and keep the RD and pike


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