30+ CL's for a 180g????

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Bio-filtration is the least of his worries. No amount of bio media/filtration is going to resolve the overall dimensions of this tank, or the overall water quality issues that are going to take place in the future.

I guess it all boils down to what your definition of responsible fish keeping is.

I personally don't think that it's responsible to recommend adding a large group of clown loaches to a 180 that already has an Asain aro, a Fei Feng, 2 BP's, and 9 clown loaches.
 
I've seen Marco's tank in the past, but the vast majority of those clown loaches are still small juvies. No one is arguing the fact that a large group of loaches can be grown out in smaller tanks.
 
having upgraded to my 180 and added more loaches. i think 30 would be pushing it in a 180 without the asian aro or flagtail.
 
lol was on another form and somone was saying you could keep 50 in a 75 gal im like wtf
 
Yes, anything is possible given a large enough tank, and a serious dedication to the water quality of that tank. But reducing nitrates is only 1 part of the water quality equation.

If you want to get serious, and go the extra mile, then don't waste your time with a mickey mouse de-nitrater like that, set up an auto water change system.

Even still, a 180 gallon tank is still too damn small for all of the combinded fish in question.
 
The De-Nitrator is an Amazing DIY project.... Even with an auto drip system which will cost you much more to setup than the DeNitrator, You won't be able to reduce Nitrates down to such low ppm. Anyway.... to each is own.



RD.;4786493; said:
Yes, anything is possible given a large enough tank, and a serious dedication to the water quality of that tank. But reducing nitrates is only 1 part of the water quality equation.

If you want to get serious, and go the extra mile, then don't waste your time with a mickey mouse de-nitrater like that, set up an auto water change system.

Even still, a 180 gallon tank is still too damn small for all of the combinded fish in question.
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I have buddy in town that set one up, it doesn't come even remotely close to what an auto water change system will achieve regarding water quality. He found that out soon enough.

As previously stated, nitrates are only one portion of the overall equation when it comes to keeping ideal water parameters in ones tank. There is simply nothing that compares to a good old water change when it comes to keeping stable water conditions for your fish. A water change not only reduces nitrates, it also removes phosphates, pheromones, and various other dissolved organic compounds, and at the same time it also adds back various minerals & trace elements that become depleted over time.
A WC also adds 02 to your system, and reduces the number of bacteria and pathogens that are always present in our tanks.

Whether it's via an auto water change system, or manually, nothing can beat a good old fashioned water change. The only reason that nitrates have been used as a benchmark for water quality over the years is because it is easy to detect, not because it is the most important portion of the water quality equation.

And yes, if one dials up an auto water change system you can easily reduce nitrates to as low as you can with the DIY nitrate system that you linked to above, and at the same time have your fish benefit from all of the other positive health attributes that fresh water brings.

HTH
 
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