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    4,000g+ pond in Atlanta. What else can I put it in there?

    Discussion in 'Outdoor Ponds' started by triathloncoach, Mar 12, 2017.

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      It's gonna take years or a decade for a bullhead to get that big, also they are extremely lazy and will focus on eating fish food.
       
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      Slim chance it'll get anywhere near half that size in captivity
       
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      That picture is teetering dangerously close on an odd-colored channel cat vs. a yellowbullhead. I can't see the whiskers in the front to be able to tell but the headshape alone looks like an adult channel vs. a bullhead.

      Actually 100% scratch that, it is a channel catfish so wrong on the species there. I have bullhead cats too and they aren't going to attack a full grown bullfrog I promise you that. Not unless they are well over 6 pounds which almost never happens being that that is the world record currently.
       
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      The point being they won't become full sized frogs in a smaller pond with catfish. Obviously the catfish will have an easier meal with the eggs and tadpoles. But they will take on just about anything that gets near them and they're pigs. I get paid to take out bullheads sometimes. They're kind of a pest for some. We sein and dredge as best as we can but it's never 100% When you drain a pond they can burrow in the mud and wait it out for quite a while then when the water and new stock is added later they eat the eggs and the babies. Some of the ponds in our area are too close to creeks as well so when they flood over sometimes bullheads will visit their stocked all you can eat buffet- and I get a call.
       
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      I'll have to disagree with this generalization. I've had mine for nearly 3 years and it is not aggressive with tankmates nor piggish during feeding time. A friend of mine had a brown one and it had the same temperament as mine.
       
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      That's fine and I agree they would eat the tadpoles and eggs without question, but bullheads are NOT the hyper aggressive stereotype that some cats get. They are catfish nonetheless so yes frog breeding would cease in that pond. EDIT I have two yellow bulls, 1 I caught full grown, the other I raised from a fry and neither of them eat any tank mates or even harass anything smaller than them.

      But if OP decides he'd like to try a bullhead you can't misrepresent the species with a picture of a cat that gets triple the size and weight of a bullhead.
       
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      Not to mention Koi will eat tadpoles, too.
       
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      Its for this reason that each frog lays hundreds of eggs at a time........hoping that a tiny fraction will survive to adulthood
       
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      Catfish get places koi can't -I'm sorry I just grabbed the first big brown bullhead pic I could find on google there are plenty more real examples of big brown and black bullies that would eat your frogs. I didn't mean to misrepresent anything but I've caught them big ... on frogs. -and I know how fun they are to get rid of when you change your mind and they're established.
       
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      not my images they were listed as ameiurus nebulosus
      catfish have really big mouths they don't have to be this big to grab a frog.
      Some catfish are lazy. Some are very aggressive- pretty sure they're always pigs though
       

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