40G sump for 90 Gallon tank?

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sumps are the shizzy, but 1 flowerhorn in a 90 doesnt need that it would be nice but overkill
 
Dr Joe;2750737; said:
HHhmmm...

I almost always push for a sump...unless it really isn't necessary.

Is money an object?

What everyone is saying about sumps is true...but...a 90g with one fish that size really doesn't need the extra water volume the sump would provide (as long as you keep up on the maintenance).

Match the divider material to the tank material, and silicone sealer for glass... solvent for acrylic.

Do you have a pump for the sump already? If not you may want to price compare a canister to the total of a sump.

Is the sump going to be enclosed or in the open (viewable) as sumps do have somewhat of a cool factor ;),

Evaporation is another point, covers will help, but.

Just a few points to consider.

Dr Joe

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thanks for all the valuable info dr. joe.

i just got the tank today (heavy as heck since the previous owner still had about 100lbs of gravel in it).

it has a hole drilled on the bottom of the built-in overflow so i think i should go w/ a sump... however the previous owner went canister and had the water level under the openings of the overflow (pretty ghetto looking).

i'll clean it up first, make it look all pretty, then decide if i want to go ahead w/ the sump project. don't really have to much time these days but i always wanted to build one.
 
Will Hayward;2751041; said:
The entire idea behind this site is Overkill :P
haha i know man! sometimes it blows my mind
 
If you have a spare 40G I would say go with the sump. I just finished making one out of an old 45G and I think it turned out OK. Just a heads up though...it can be a challenge to create water tight baffles if the acrylic tank that you're going to use to make your sump is bowed. Mine was definitely bowed, so I couldn't really make baffles. It is 13" at the top and bottom, but in the middle of the tank it is about 13.75". That's the one (and only, IMO) advantage of making a sump out of a glass tank. Welding acrylic is really easy and the strength of anything you weld together is insane. Shameless plug of my project: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=212975
 
midasman714;2751049; said:
thanks for all the valuable info dr. joe.

i just got the tank today (heavy as heck since the previous owner still had about 100lbs of gravel in it).

it has a hole drilled on the bottom of the built-in overflow so i think i should go w/ a sump... however the previous owner went canister and had the water level under the openings of the overflow (pretty ghetto looking).

i'll clean it up first, make it look all pretty, then decide if i want to go ahead w/ the sump project. don't really have to much time these days but i always wanted to build one.

That's all you had to say to begin with, so it's settled...a sump it is! :headbang2;)



Dr Joe

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I would go with the sump even if it wasnt already drilled and you didnt have the 40g tank for it. If your 40 is bowed like aldiaz said you could build a quick frame around it like is done around the rubbermaid tub sumps.
The other thing to consider is how long will this tank have a small bioload maybe forever but maybe not and if the load increases youre already good to go.
you can do the media cheap if you needed to (srubbies, lava rock, wadded deer netting) and if you already have a pump or even a good power head you should be able to get it going very inexpensively. Good luck
 
badreverend;2751469; said:
I would go with the sump even if it wasnt already drilled and you didnt have the 40g tank for it. If your 40 is bowed like aldiaz said you could build a quick frame around it like is done around the rubbermaid tub sumps.
The other thing to consider is how long will this tank have a small bioload maybe forever but maybe not and if the load increases youre already good to go.
you can do the media cheap if you needed to (srubbies, lava rock, wadded deer netting) and if you already have a pump or even a good power head you should be able to get it going very inexpensively. Good luck


Just a note...

Power heads don't lift water very well.

Dr Joe

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Dr Joe;2751481; said:
Just a note...

Power heads don't lift water very well.

Dr Joe

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I had a good sized powerhead feeding an above the tank filter on a 90g but it only had a 2' maybe 2 1/2' head height so I suppose the 4' or 5' lift could be a challenge for an average size powerhead
 
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