thanks for the feedback mightyoscar.
the giraffe and plec went back to my LFS
amazing how much space they took up!
i had a browse round for complete tank setups, i found an aqua one regal 120. its a 300litre with external cabinet and fairly good lights thats about 73gallons and £575
the other.. more suitable i was looking at was a rena for £795 thats a complete setup 433 litre... about 115 gallons.
clearly the rena is the way to go as its larger and better quality.
could it work out cheaper to buy things seperately though? make the stand, buy the tank, pick up a few high power filters and a light unit?
thnaks guys your filling a void with useful info