I don't care what he does, I have a pair of Jack in a 55g but they are a pair and are small. I never flames you, I just gave you advice. You couldn't do 2 jacks because they would end up fight if males and if it was a pair they would beat up tankmates.
55g South American/Central American Stocking?
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killdog102;4021321; said:
even after all the advice given in previous threads you still manage to invent even more ridiculous stock lists and you have the audacity to ask not to be flamed. if you ignore good advice on numerous occasions people will start to get annoyed and they will vent, you cant expect anything else.
people are trying to help you but you just dont listen and most of them like to try and help you, your fish and your wallet.
tbh you come across as a troll because you dont ever seem to take on board even the smallest bit of sound advice given.
Adhlc;4023649; said:
And I just got back from returning every fish accept the pleco in the 55g, now the fish in the 30g are in the 55g accept for the jewel, clown pleco, and bichir so I'm not "Violently" overstocked anymore.
guys, this thread is proof that he's trying to fix the mess he's created. if you look at the stock list in his 55 gallon and compare with what he originally asked about, he's trying to get rid of the fish that won't work in there and find out what will work.
in previous threads he was told not to keep the jags, pacus etc but I don't recall anyone going into detail about green terrors and jack dempseys because the other fish commanded the first and most attention.
He's still asking questions so he's trying to figure this thing out.
Killdog, at the same time, when someone gives you advice as to what you can keep in your tank (especially when you're asking about what you want to keep in the tank long-term with no tank upgrades) and think that their stock list in their tanks contradicts what they're telling you, you need to keep in mind that a lot of people on here have been keeping these fish for years. A lot of the people on here have fish in tanks but only temporarily with plans to upgrade in the future. You stated clearly that you have no plans to upgrade to a larger tank so people are going to recommend to you what will work, LONG TERM, in your tank. Their tanks may not necessarily be setup for the long term. So, if you ever have questions about things like that, you should ask instead of throwing that back in their face when you don't know their situation...especially when they're trying to help you.
Now as to what you originally suggested...no, 1 GT and 1 cuban would not work long-term in a 55. You could probably get by with one of either species with nothing else but maybe some fast dithers but no other cichlids. I wouldn't do a mated pair of either in a 55 either since there is no possibility of tank upgrade in the future.
I would also not do a mated pair of cons in a 55 with other fish. As cons continue to grow they will require more and more space. Once they breed and reach adult size, they will be guarding their shoal of fry around the entire tank and no other fish will really be safe.
If you want to do more than just one mated couple I think your best bet would be firemouths. You could do a very nice tank with 6-8 firemouths (you would have to dwindle this number down to between 4-6 as they grow and pair up) because firemouths often times can live in a community type setup with multiple pairs assisting in rearing each other's fry. However you then have to be wary of what you're going to do with said fry.
My advice would be to stay away from breeding for now (not that you ever said that was what you were trying to do or anything) and do what some others have suggested with 1 JD, 1 FM and 1 Con...preferably all the same sex. You might have to buy 2-3 of each and grow them up a little bit before you can sex them and then get rid of the leftovers.
in previous threads he was told not to keep the jags, pacus etc but I don't recall anyone going into detail about green terrors and jack dempseys because the other fish commanded the first and most attention.
He's still asking questions so he's trying to figure this thing out.
Killdog, at the same time, when someone gives you advice as to what you can keep in your tank (especially when you're asking about what you want to keep in the tank long-term with no tank upgrades) and think that their stock list in their tanks contradicts what they're telling you, you need to keep in mind that a lot of people on here have been keeping these fish for years. A lot of the people on here have fish in tanks but only temporarily with plans to upgrade in the future. You stated clearly that you have no plans to upgrade to a larger tank so people are going to recommend to you what will work, LONG TERM, in your tank. Their tanks may not necessarily be setup for the long term. So, if you ever have questions about things like that, you should ask instead of throwing that back in their face when you don't know their situation...especially when they're trying to help you.
Now as to what you originally suggested...no, 1 GT and 1 cuban would not work long-term in a 55. You could probably get by with one of either species with nothing else but maybe some fast dithers but no other cichlids. I wouldn't do a mated pair of either in a 55 either since there is no possibility of tank upgrade in the future.
I would also not do a mated pair of cons in a 55 with other fish. As cons continue to grow they will require more and more space. Once they breed and reach adult size, they will be guarding their shoal of fry around the entire tank and no other fish will really be safe.
If you want to do more than just one mated couple I think your best bet would be firemouths. You could do a very nice tank with 6-8 firemouths (you would have to dwindle this number down to between 4-6 as they grow and pair up) because firemouths often times can live in a community type setup with multiple pairs assisting in rearing each other's fry. However you then have to be wary of what you're going to do with said fry.
My advice would be to stay away from breeding for now (not that you ever said that was what you were trying to do or anything) and do what some others have suggested with 1 JD, 1 FM and 1 Con...preferably all the same sex. You might have to buy 2-3 of each and grow them up a little bit before you can sex them and then get rid of the leftovers.
when you get a chance, update your signature with the fish that you currently have and maybe we can figure out a combo that will work from that. If you still have them I think you could go with:
1 JD
1 HRP
1 FM
1 Jewel
This might be pushing it a little bit but have lots of decor in the tank to form several small territories and they should get along ok.
1 JD
1 HRP
1 FM
1 Jewel
This might be pushing it a little bit but have lots of decor in the tank to form several small territories and they should get along ok.
killdog102;4025008; said:
i would be a bit worried for that clown pleco in the 30g just incase the bichir decides its small enough to eat. i would definitely keep an eye on that. also be aware about some plecos having a bichir slime coat habit.
you might also want to plan a little ahead and leave a spot in the 55g for the bichir as it grows. especially if its a senegal as they are very active fish.
for the 55g i would agree with Jason_S moslt except i would leave jewels out of it because they are extremely vicious and far outclass FM's in aggression and would probably harrass a JD and HRP. i would add an extra FM inplace of the jewel.
cichlid2006;4026207; said:
I would have already moved him to the 55g, I just did not want my 30g to look so empty.
it might be a good idea to update your stocklists in your signature so people can see what you do have already so they can best advise.
