55g Tank. 3 koi, 1 Black Moor, 1 Pleco?

[Mystix212]

I setup a new 55g, with fluval fx5, tetra whisper air pump rated for 100g, two outlets. What I want to know is. Can I house these 5 fish together? I know they will grow, and I'll end up buying a bigger tank. I'm thinking after a year or so, I'll upgrade to 210g.

So my next question, is my pleco gonna terrorize the black moor gold fish, because of the slime coat?

I heard that, keeping a goldfish with koi is a bad idea, due to their hormones that they release, stunting the koi growth. Unbacked rumor? or truth? Couldnt find anything about it online.

Also what filter media would you run for the koi?

My aim is to get one platinum white, 1 solid black, and one solid gold/yellow metallic. 1 Black moor, and a spotted pleco.

Platinum white = Platinum Ogon Koi, about 3"
Solid Black = Solid Black Koi, 3.5" to 4"
Gold = Gold Ogon Koi, about 3"

Is there a subtype for the black koi?

Thanks for the input.

Lets see, a koi grows to a potential length of 3 feet. For a rule of thumb, thats means 1,000G's of pond space per fully grown koi. Koi AND Goldfish are coldwater fish and do best when kept in the mid 60's. Koi are very messy tank fish and arent suited for a glass box.

Mixing coldwater and warmwater fish isnt a good start.

 

[Connor0729]

Lets see, a koi grows to a potential length of 3 feet. For a rule of thumb, thats means 1,000G's of pond space per fully grown koi. Koi AND Goldfish are coldwater fish and do best when kept in the mid 60's. Koi are very messy tank fish and arent suited for a glass box.

Mixing coldwater and warmwater fish isnt a good start.

thats what i was thinking. koi don't belong in tanks. they look better from the top anyways.

 

[IKeepPacu]

common pleco's can be kept with goldies. i have a large common in my 55g goldfish tank, and ive never had a problem in the 2 years all those fish have been together.

i also have a mix of fancies, comets and a black moor in the tank, and all are nice, healthy and plump. theres 3 comets, 1 black oranda, 1 lionhead and even 2 giant danios.

 

[Bonzo]

You could substitude the pleco to chinese hi-fin shark. They are pretty cool in my opinion.

 

[aravenschild]

You have a better chance keeping the black moor and pleco (this also depends on the type of pleco) together in the 55, the moor can take higher temps up to 78 degrees, the koi can't. Also koi have been known to get up to three feet long, most koi experts will tell you that koi need at least 1,000 gallons per fish......................

 

[Druu]

common pleco's can be kept with goldies. i have a large common in my 55g goldfish tank, and ive never had a problem in the 2 years all those fish have been together.

i also have a mix of fancies, comets and a black moor in the tank, and all are nice, healthy and plump. theres 3 comets, 1 black oranda, 1 lionhead and even 2 giant danios.

Just because you can do something does not mean that you should. You could probably live for a month eating nothing but horse manure (high fiber) and water, but should you?

 

[green_fox]

ive read that koi need 400 gal each

 

[IKeepPacu]

Just because you can do something does not mean that you should. You could probably live for a month eating nothing but horse manure (high fiber) and water, but should you?

horse manure and water.....that just might be the next fad diet of the month

 

[Danyal]

i think you'll end up having to upgrade long before a year, koi and goldfish can grow incredibly fast.

 

[Nabbig2]

Fancy goldfish: Might be picked on by pleco.

Normal Goldfish: Once they grow up, they will leave no food for the pleco. Trust me on this.

Koi might harass goldfish; not a good idea.