60 Gallon tank for arapaima?
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Bderick67;3008952; said:Did you take any time at all to look at the link I provided?
Yes sir, I read it right away. And saved to my favorites
He mentioned he wanted Leopoldis? Can you even find them for under $1000 anymore?
A few years back I was in a store that had several Leopoldis and other FW Rays, and the Leos were about $150-200 depending on size. If I wasn't still in college at the time I would've definitely got a breeding pair had I known their future value.
If you get experience in the future, and feel comforatable with a rays, might be a worthy investment if you can get a Leopoldi or Tiger breeding pair. It could potentially pay you back, especially if you're in a state where you can charge a little bit more. I'm not reccomending it because it is illegal in your state, but it's your life and you can make your own decisions.
As a beginner I wouldn't recommend starting with Rays, especially one as expensive a Leopoldi, although Leopoldis are arguably the hardiest FW Rays to care for.
I have seen some succesful 55-78 gallon Stingray tanks, but what is succesful for those owners may not work for you, especially on your level. Also they're treading on thin water (no pun intended) when it comes to the smaller tanks. I have friends who do the unorthodox, and works for long periods of time, but eventually it kicks back at them. An example is a friend of mine who had a nice Coral Reef tank in a 90 gallon tank. 120 lbs of live rock and no refugium tank. He did maybe 2 water changes a year, and when he added water he didn't treat it at all. Just straight tap water. He rarely had disease problems such as Ich, and it was mainly on his Yellow Tang, and his Powder Blue Tang, which is common. He had combinations that were forbidden. He had more than one Dwarf Angel (1 Flame, 2 Coral Beauties,) a Porcupine Puffer, a Snowflake Eel, a large Black Banded Shark (started as a "shark egg,) more than one type of Clownfish species, and a few more. The dwarfs never fought, the Porcupine never bothered the other fish and did perfectly fine in a reef tank, the Snowflake never ate any of the shrimp, fish, or other inverts, the shark never knocked over the Coral or bothered any of it's other tankmates, and the Clowns didn't fight over territory. There were times when his Maroon and Ocellaris hosted the same Anenome. It was the most perfect tank and he did everything wrong. The tank was about 2 1/2 years old and one day everything just started dieing. It crashed and crashed fast. Corals, Anenomes, Fish, Inverts, etc... most all gone within 48 hours. Stirred up some some of the live sand bed, 4", and that was the end of that story. The water parameters should not be taken lightly. If they're off you should fix them immediately. Test religously... it will be worth it in the end.
I'd say you're on the right track with a Black Arowana. Silvers can be had for considerably less, but there are good deals on Blacks/Blues out there. Price on Blacks/Blues is quite ridiculous if you ask me. Where I worked in high school we'd get them in all the time at 10+ inches and run roughly $70-80.
Hope this info helps.... this is my first post, haha
A few years back I was in a store that had several Leopoldis and other FW Rays, and the Leos were about $150-200 depending on size. If I wasn't still in college at the time I would've definitely got a breeding pair had I known their future value.
If you get experience in the future, and feel comforatable with a rays, might be a worthy investment if you can get a Leopoldi or Tiger breeding pair. It could potentially pay you back, especially if you're in a state where you can charge a little bit more. I'm not reccomending it because it is illegal in your state, but it's your life and you can make your own decisions.
As a beginner I wouldn't recommend starting with Rays, especially one as expensive a Leopoldi, although Leopoldis are arguably the hardiest FW Rays to care for.
I have seen some succesful 55-78 gallon Stingray tanks, but what is succesful for those owners may not work for you, especially on your level. Also they're treading on thin water (no pun intended) when it comes to the smaller tanks. I have friends who do the unorthodox, and works for long periods of time, but eventually it kicks back at them. An example is a friend of mine who had a nice Coral Reef tank in a 90 gallon tank. 120 lbs of live rock and no refugium tank. He did maybe 2 water changes a year, and when he added water he didn't treat it at all. Just straight tap water. He rarely had disease problems such as Ich, and it was mainly on his Yellow Tang, and his Powder Blue Tang, which is common. He had combinations that were forbidden. He had more than one Dwarf Angel (1 Flame, 2 Coral Beauties,) a Porcupine Puffer, a Snowflake Eel, a large Black Banded Shark (started as a "shark egg,) more than one type of Clownfish species, and a few more. The dwarfs never fought, the Porcupine never bothered the other fish and did perfectly fine in a reef tank, the Snowflake never ate any of the shrimp, fish, or other inverts, the shark never knocked over the Coral or bothered any of it's other tankmates, and the Clowns didn't fight over territory. There were times when his Maroon and Ocellaris hosted the same Anenome. It was the most perfect tank and he did everything wrong. The tank was about 2 1/2 years old and one day everything just started dieing. It crashed and crashed fast. Corals, Anenomes, Fish, Inverts, etc... most all gone within 48 hours. Stirred up some some of the live sand bed, 4", and that was the end of that story. The water parameters should not be taken lightly. If they're off you should fix them immediately. Test religously... it will be worth it in the end.
I'd say you're on the right track with a Black Arowana. Silvers can be had for considerably less, but there are good deals on Blacks/Blues out there. Price on Blacks/Blues is quite ridiculous if you ask me. Where I worked in high school we'd get them in all the time at 10+ inches and run roughly $70-80.
Hope this info helps.... this is my first post, haha
K.I.S.S. stands for "keep it simple stupid". i've been keeping lots of monster fishes for years and applied this method and it worked for me. Don't pressure yourself. Learn from experiences, that's all.
Bderick67;3008952; said:
Couple weeks ago, I have the same problem. My tank was not cycle. Bderick67 help me a lot !!! See my thread: http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=221187 it takes me 10 days to prepare my tank...
This is very important to understand how cycle works. http://www.fishlore.com/NitrogenCycle.htm This is in my opinion the most important things that everyone must understand ! Everyone who likes fish
iLoveHebe;3009060; said:
Yes in your own mind. Why are you asking me what fish I am getting?
monster_lover01;3009770; said:
Remarkable amount of advise you have given, yet it really does not help the OP in any way with his situation, does it?
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