a "WTF?" moment

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liberator177;2260092; said:
in the fishes defense, if someone walks in your house at night when your sleeping what are you gunna do?

ghostknifefish0909;2260181; said:
:( poor grouper but its true if someone came to your house at night you wouldnt react very softly!

If that someone was 20 times the size of me holding a knife, I think I might have to leave that someone alone....
 
Granted I skimmed through the video but how in the hell are you getting a positive ID on the grouper from the that video? It also appear that they were deep water divers, a VERY dangerous job and that fish didnt help to make things safer.

Also, the fish wasnt defending its home you morons. Its was hungry! That is what it just kept grabbing his hands.
 
jd i respect your opinions as you have been around here for awhile.
but please dont call me a moron. the fish appeared to be a Warsaw as they are one of the few solid gray grouper. possibly Broomtail Grouper but doubtful. Grouper do not eat humans. it was a test bite.
 
Granted I skimmed through the video but how in the hell are you getting a positive ID on the grouper from the that video? It also appear that they were deep water divers, a VERY dangerous job and that fish didnt help to make things safer.

Also, the fish wasnt defending its home you morons. Its was hungry! That is what it just kept grabbing his hands.

killing it made his job even more unsafe, it realeased the smell of blood into the water, which would have the same effect as chum, luring preditors (ie. sharks) near him.
 
Ummm... I'd would've killed the fish too. Sorry.

I do think it sucks that this happened to be an endangered animal, but if I where down there, that thing would be fillets. Yes, that diver was in the fishes territory, and yes it appeared he wouldn't be killed by the fish... but he could have been. The fish was obviously not shy around the diver and was grabbing at him. Ok, so he only hurt his hand a bit, but what if the fish twisted when it bit and broke his arm? What if instead of the hand the fish went for the regulator or a hose? Dude would be toast!! Yes the fish hadn't done that yet, but the potential for that to happen was very, very real. And night diving is already one of the most dangerous jobs out there without the wildlife!!
Let's say that you are working on a cabin or camping out in the woods, and a bear attacks you (I use bear because I'm from Alaska, please insert any predator you wish) you wouldn't shoot the bear???? As you say with grouper, a bear rarely attacks and is often curious and, dude, you just got attacked by a bear!! If you don't kill it the state troopers will (and yes, most bear attacks are nonfatal, just like most grouper attacks).
Also, I don't believe most people are going to look in their animal id book to check and see if the creature is on the protected species list or not. In the divers defense, there is a very good chance they didn't know it was a protected species. Just because a guy goes diving doesn't mean he's a marine biologist.
Also, I don't beleive that the diver was pointlessly hacking into the fish. He was obviously trying to kill the fish as quickly as possible by slashing its throat. Further proof he wasn't a biologist (or even a avid fisherman). The quickest way to kill a large fish (aside from shooting it, which we do in Alaska) is to cut its gills which quickly bleeds the fish to death (while providing beautifully clean fillets).
I also don't think that the other grouper was trying to help the dying fish. I often would have other salmon following the hooked salmon to the surface. Or sharks swimming around a hooked shark. I think he just wanted to see what was going on, and with that blood in the water, probably try to get a meal.
Sorry to disagree with you, but I just think it is silly to defend a fish when a human life is even possilby at stake.
 
problem is that it says this happened in israel and warsaws dont live there. Also i like conservation but i would be freaking out too.

THe head structure seems different than a warsaws
 
i couldn't find the location. in that case im not sure.
but the difference between a 4-5ft Grouper and a bear is that a bear can kill a human easily but a Grouper can't. Only 1 species of Grouper has been involved in attacks on humans, the Giant Groupere, and it would have to be a sizeable one to be fatal. Most "Grouper Attacks" are by the Giant Seabass of the Wreckfish family.
 
Bottomfeeder;2261857; said:
i couldn't find the location. in that case im not sure.
but the difference between a 4-5ft Grouper and a bear is that a bear can kill a human easily but a Grouper can't. Only 1 species of Grouper has been involved in attacks on humans, the Giant Groupere, and it would have to be a sizeable one to be fatal. Most "Grouper Attacks" are by the Giant Seabass of the Wreckfish family.

Say that when your several hundred feet down in an environment that is very hostile.

Think what you will, but a human life is FAR more important then any fish. That fish was being very aggressive and thought his hands were food. It was trying to eat, not the human, but his hands. It could have quickly turned fatal for the diver if that fish got out of control.
 
Actually I was reading a book where this guys wife was viciosly attacked by a red grouper it nicked femoral arterie.
 
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