activated carbon...

[tcarswell]

Activated carbon is great for keeping contaminants out of water and help removing SOME med's. But remember to change it once a month or it will slowly release back in the tank what it pulled out and always use black diamond it work's the best.

mr.reef24

OK im gonna itemize this for everyone

First of all
"Mr Reef feels that black diamond works the best"
I feel differently and without studies and test work being done matrix carbon nor black diamond nor many other carbons can be said to be "The best"

#2 It has never been proven that carbon leaches anything back in to the water that is speculative again.

Please be careful about spreading wives tails and rumors by remembering to say " In my opinion " Mr Reef
Its passing information in this fashion that starts crappy threads about petty stuff that is based mostly on rumor.

 

[mr.reef24]

OK im gonna itemize this for everyone

First of all
"Mr Reef feels that black diamond works the best"
I feel differently and without studies and test work being done matrix carbon nor black diamond nor many other carbons can be said to be "The best"

#2 It has never been proven that carbon leaches anything back in to the water that is speculative again.

Please be careful about spreading wives tails and rumors by remembering to say " In my opinion " Mr Reef
Its passing information in this fashion that starts crappy threads about petty stuff that is based mostly on rumor.

First off there is a study done proving this I will email the professor to post the results second. This study was done by a college not any company involved with any carbon source's .

 

[jschall]

If I use anything it'll probably be purigen.

 

[mr.reef24]

If I use anything it'll probably be purigen.

yucky lol

mr.reef24

It's good stuff you just have to do alot of different crap with it. my OPINION is you can achieve the same if not better result's with good water chemistry and carbon and a good filtration system and good feeding habit's and save time and money on fancy chemical's and filter's just good old water chemistry does the trick.

 

[brianp]

On those occasions when I have seen fish with HITH Disease, it has always been in fish shops, where the fish (typically an Oscar) appear to be living in cramped, stressful, squalid conditions. Since this disease appears to initially infect the nerve endings in the face and lateral line, I personally view this as a fish's version of leprosy. I suspect that Hexamita is a secondary infection, rather than the primary cause. If I had to bet, I'd say that this is a bacterial infection (maybe a mycobacterium) caused by a combination of accumulated filth (poor water chemistry), bad diet and stress. Hence, I would recommend routine water changes and vitamin supplements to avoid this problem.

 

[ewurm]

On those occasions when I have seen fish with HITH Disease, it has always been in fish shops, where the fish (typically an Oscar) appear to be living in cramped, stressful, squalid conditions. Since this disease appears to initially infect the nerve endings in the face and lateral line, I personally view this as a fish's version of leprosy. I suspect that Hexamita is a secondary infection, rather than the primary cause. If I had to bet, I'd say that this is a bacterial infection (maybe a mycobacterium) caused by a combination of accumulated filth (poor water chemistry), bad diet and stress. Hence, I would recommend routine water changes and vitamin supplements to avoid this problem.

I completely agree.

 

[tcarswell]

First off there is a study done proving this I will email the professor to post the results second. This study was done by a college not any company involved with any carbon source's .

It would be the first study that had proven it. Please lets see it

 

[velanarris]

source?

HITH is believed to be caused by hexamita protozoa. the use of activated carbon should not cause this protozoa to bloom in numbers..

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=124694

That's a basic analysis of HITH protozoa, following the references will yield, perhaps, easier to follow studies of Hexamita under a carbon rich environment. For the most part, all fermentive digestion system based organisms will thrive in carbon rich environments, similar to yeast.

 

[jjdsplace]

[SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1][SIZE=-1]The carbon theory is probably one of the most hotly debated concerning the cause of HITH. The idea is that the carbon used to remove harmful toxins from the water actually causes the disease. At first this may seem absurd and contrary to what you have read or been told, however when you take into account the number of cases of HITH directly related to carbon (i.e. HITH appears when carbon is introduced and disappears when carbon is removed) it is hard to argue with it. Many studies failed to produce results when testing for the carbon theory, as many fish with carbon in the tank did not come down with the disease, and this has lead to it being somewhat discredited as a real cause. In my experience the cause does not come so much from the carbon itself but from carbon dust. When carbon is shipped to the stores it is jolted and jostled across the country hundreds or thousands of miles in the back of a hauling truck. As the carbon particles rub against each other carbon dust is formed. Anyone who has ever used carbon knows this as the black sludge that comes off when it is washed. Improper or unthorough washing of carbon can lead to that dust being introduced to the water. This in turn causes the disease, so when the carbon and more importantly the carbon dust is removed the HITH goes into remission. Another theory is that prolonged use of carbon causes many vital trace elements to be absorbed, and this deficiency in the water leads the fish into the illness.[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE]

 

[brianp]

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=124694

That's a basic analysis of HITH protozoa, following the references will yield, perhaps, easier to follow studies of Hexamita under a carbon rich environment. For the most part, all fermentive digestion system based organisms will thrive in carbon rich environments, similar to yeast.

When they refer to a "carbon-rich" environment, they are referring to soluble carbon dietary sources, such as amino acids and carbohydrates. They are not attempting to suggest that Hexamita is actually ingesting and metabolizing particles of carbon...such as activated carbon. This could confuse some readers.