AHHHH...losing Demasoni left and right!!!

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cchhcc;3658777; said:
Those numbers can't be correct in a cycled tank. Perhaps you should try another test kit or just test again.

If they are correct, why would you change water?


I did a water change as I was due for one, and I'm at my wits end here. I think I'll get a new kit tomorrow and re-test. There may have been some very low nitrate in the tank, but the shade of yellow was closer to 0ppm than 5ppm.....that's why I listed it as 0

Scott
 
Looks like another one, possible two are on their way out. It is sitting on the bottom breathing hard, no visible damage from aggression. Color is ok, but for a dying fish I wouldn't expect better. Stomach almost looks swollen, and they haven't been fed today. I'll try and snap some pics.


Anyone have any ideas?


Scott
 
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won't be long low....color is worse than the pic shows.

:-(


Scott
 
What are you feeding them? My guess would be bloat. Mbuna need a low protein diet or they can die from bloat. This would also explain why you are loosing adults and not juveniles.
 
My experience with bloat is sunken bellies due to starvation not swollen bellies. You however may be on to something.

I'm feeding cichlid pellets from the LFS. However when looking at the label I found this on the label.

"Guaranteed Analysis"
Crude Protein min - 46%
Crude Fat min - 7%
Crude Fiber max - 4%
Moisture max - 8%

If it were a food problem, I would expect to lose one here and there, not one a day. I do plan on changing foods though.

Scott
 
Neogenesis;3659467;3659467 said:
My experience with bloat is sunken bellies due to starvation not swollen bellies. You however may be on to something.

I'm feeding cichlid pellets from the LFS. However when looking at the label I found this on the label.

"Guaranteed Analysis"
Crude Protein min - 46%
Crude Fat min - 7%
Crude Fiber max - 4%
Moisture max - 8%

If it were a food problem, I would expect to lose one here and there, not one a day. I do plan on changing foods though.

Scott
You would be better off feeding them pure spirulina..thats what I feed my mbuna and never any problems for me.
 
ive kept africans for quite a few years.. and love demansoni's. it looks like bloat to me, i have had quite some experience with bloat and africans.. its what led me to get away from africans altogether.

they need spirulina. and the cichlid formula you are feeding may have too much protein for africans. they make food specifically for africans (NLS brand). also, add veggies into their diet. i used to feed them frozen slices of zucchini, squash, cucumber, cauliflower.. etc. just rubberband it to a rock and sink it.

as far as bloat goes, it is hard to treat and i never could save my fish even with epson salt added to the tank and metronidazole or flagyl. bloat is thought to be caused by a protein rich diet, misuse of aquarium salt with africans - i stopped using salt altogether because i felt it was secondary to the protein problem. and stress also can trigger bloat.

seeing you lost a female, a alpha male i would say that stress in the tank may have triggered the bloat. i would take out the bloated ones, treat them for bloat and not feed them a few days.. and i would actually get more africans for the tank-since overcrowding actually helps disperse aggression with africans..

just my .02 cents-ive dealt with bloat and africans alot, but others on here may have better advice.

and everyone else is right about the nitrates in the tank-they should be there if the tank is cycled regardless.. sometimes its hard to tell with those chemical test kits even in direct sunlight.. lol. best of luck to you and your africans!
 
Navygirl,

Thanks for the reply. I am going to go hunt for new food locally today, but doubt I find it. I will most likely have to mail order it. I don't use salt in my tank as I've never had the need for it, and everything had been thriving for quite some time now. It's just troubling because I don't see any MAJOR aggression in the tank, never have. My Demasoni seem kind of mild compared to some others I've seen. They do a little chasing, but never see a beat up one, and never nipped fins.

I'm also going to pick up some test strips today to verify my chemical test kit. I'm hoping it was just my eyes not being able to read the kit, but the shades of yellow aern't very far apart at the bottom of the scale. I'll retest today and have my wife look at it as well. Could just be me.

Scott
 
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