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camaro_boy;3858255; said:
i will have to take another look at the install video. so as long as the output of the filter breaks the water it should be ok for oxygen now? i have one of the outputs flipping some of the water on the top up now. so its making a little noise. is there a air pump that is actually quiet? i have one now but its extremely noisy
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Ok all you have to do is remove the three clips thats holding the hose in place thats on the back on top of the tank. Pull the hose up until the rubber boot that is connecting the hose to the outtake nozzle hits the piece the hose is laying on make sure the attachment is sitting straight then put the three clips back in and your done. Then you will be breaking more then enough water at the surface to allow oxygen in the water.

Still need these questions answered are your nitrites and ammonia both 0 and how long ago did you make the filter change?

Ok you answered my question while I was making this post! So your water stats aren't fine your going through a fishin cycle and I bet your ammonia reading are high so we need to know what your ammonia and nitrites reading are like numbers not just fine. And yes you always have to have the top of the water breaking or there will be no oxygen in the water and the fish will die.
 
hey,

ok, so the output of the fx5 is now breaking the water and the fish seem to be breathing alot better now.

So i did the tests as well. i have the API ph test kit and the ph level is 7.0.

the ammonia test which is as well the API ammonia test is at around .25 i did a 10 gallon water change this morning to lower it as it was at .50. So i figured i would wait a another day to do another water change.

Thanks again for all the advice!
 
If you have any trace of ammonia or nitrites you need to be doing daily water changes some times multiple times a day to keep them done. If your ammonia or nitrites go above 0.25ppm then a water change is required. Here is an example of how water changes work:

Ok so say you test your water and your ammonia readings are 1ppm. Now the rule of thumb is if you do a 50% water change it will cut it in half giving you 0.50ppm. Now you will want to wait an hour after you do a water change then test again. Now if your readings are 0.50ppm of ammonia then do another 50% water change. When you test it again in an hour it should be 0.25ppm and this will be ok. You'll have to do this several times a day for several weeks until your filter cycles. If you can get ahold of any mature filter media this will speed things up alot.

So the the rule of thumb is anytime your ammonia or nitrites go above 0.25ppm do a water change and doing a 50% water change will cut your reading in half.

For a future reference anytime you do a complete filter swap you need to either run the old filter along side the new one until its cycled or take the old media even if you have to tear it up and put it in the new filter. You still may go through a mini cycle but its much better then a full blown cycle. My filter on my 30 long went out the other day I added the media to the new filter but it still went through a minicycle neither ammonia or nitrite ever went above 0.50ppm I did a 50% water change a day for about a week or two and just tested again tonight now there both 0.
 
ok sounds good. i will remember those keep points. i had no idea or i would of left my old filter running. thanks alot for all your help. i will do a water change again tomorrow morning to bring down the ammonia level yet again.

thanks again
 
Np keep us updated!

Also make sure your testing your nitrites because they will be rising also when your ammonia starts getting converted and its just as deadly to fish as ammonia.
 
^ I'm not doubting you about the water change when ammonia is high, but to do several 50% water changes in a day just sounds like it could be a bad idea to me... coz then that would mean your changing upwards of 100% water in your tank a day?
 
Fat Homer;3858910; said:
^ I'm not doubting you about the water change when ammonia is high, but to do several 50% water changes in a day just sounds like it could be a bad idea to me... coz then that would mean your changing upwards of 100% water in your tank a day?
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Exactly how do you think it would be a bad idea like what would it do that would be bad? What the bad idea would be, would be to leave the toxic chemical in the water. Massive water changes is a must to get that toxin down to a smaller dose.

There is no harm in doing several massive water changes in a day when its needed like high ammonia or nitrites. You may say it will stress the fish but the toxin is already doing that plus its damaging the inside of the fish. If one of the two s really high then doing a 90% water change is needed and sometimes if its high a 50% wont cut it at first more like 75%plus is needed.
 
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