Ammonia Cycle Taking So Long!

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The QuickStart actually works sorry I wasn't trying to be an a-hole. It says to dose so many ml per gallon, but the whole bottle should do lol. I just started up a new tank 2 weeks ago and that stuff is amazing.


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Hey Anch, no problem your went being offensive at all lol, I just accidentally read over your reply however wasnt offensive at all. I will see if the lfs has the quick start as all I see is seachem stability.
Thanks for your info everyone! I will see tomorrow see if thier was any kind of drop..probably not but never know
 
The only thing that sounds odd ot me is.. if your ammonia is getting over 4ppm you're going to kill bacteria... this is how cycled tanks sometimes crash... a sudden surge in ammonia.. and might be why its just not cycling for you.. are you keeping a log of water tests? if so posting them would help alot.. otherwise test your water daily and keep track. there are alot of cycling methods out there that are fishless, and imo they all work just fine... try dosing a small amount of ammonia daily vs a large dose every few days... keep your ammonia between 1-3ppm and your tank should cycle fast... I found water changes will hurt a cycle more often then not.. so unless your nitrates are climbing in the 80 range... don't do them.. just make sure to do a big one before adding fish to drop it down to the 20ppm range and less ideally.. I also never run my tanks higher then 80 ( there are species out there that prefer higher temps, but i don't own any of them) .. heres why. oxygen and warm water do not go hand in hand.. so excessively high temps aren't going to encourage oxygen getting to your bacteria colony... your useing submerged media, if you where implimenting a wet/dry system i'de prolly not bother with it.. but i'de run the tank temp where you intend to run it once fish are added.

don't add chemicals.. don't add a bunch of other junk. give your media optimal room to grow/develop/ect... and in 5 days a tank should be in the nitrite phase, and showing nitrates... and ammonia should be declineing. I would second plants if your intention is to have them in the tank anyways... they will only help.

It's been years.. but the old shrimp technique is cheap and involves no chemicals... essentially to toss a peice of fast rotting food into the tank... this will give you the ammonia to boost your cycle, and bacteria flourish in the air.. I've never been a big fan of bacteria in a bottle, but tossing an old used filter cartridge ( still nasty sludgey and wet!) from a "clean" tank is worth its weight in gold. I did this to prime my 120's sump and had 0 cycling issues.

At most use the bacteria in a bottle to help add a more diverse bacteria colony.. but the rest of the chemicals are unneccisary... if you find your PH is consistantly low I would suggest a bag of crushed coral in your sump vs the powders ect to buffer... its much more stable ( safer!) and and will not flux your PH once you figure out how much you need.
 
Hey every body thanks for the replies, i had a log going but after it was thrown out by accident by my mom...i stopped keeping a log. I just got home and tested my ph... It seems to have decrease in one day! I didnt add any ammonia!?...what could possibly be effecting ph? I used yesterdat the neutral regulator from seachem to bring it to 7 which it did.

Its gotta be the prime....as its the only other chemical I use. But then how will i dechlorinate the water?

Im confused on this one...never had a ph problem. I do have some air wands in thier...

Thanks will check ammonia now


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Hey, i will look into crush coral. I just finihed up an experiment lol...using a gallon of water and following directions on the bottle...and then testing ph. The ph is not affected by any of the chemicals i used...Which is weird maybe thier was a ph drop when the pool filter sand was added? And since im color blind...when you test ph for 7 it should be a pale blue right? If so then the ph is good...after the neutral regulator i added in yesterday.

Thanks also how much crush coral should be purchased for a tank of a total 90 gallons?


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Just a suggestion, but why not go buy a 5lb bag of "live" marine aragonite. Mix in in your substrate, then you get the benefits of crushed coral, and the benefits of the bacteria in the aragonite. Also in my predator tank I have problems keeping ph up, how I fixed it was with dead snails. If you go to petsmart and look in their snail tank, you'll see that like half of them are dead. They'll give you the shells for free.


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