I got mine at lowes. What I would do is get regular clay flowerpots and use a hammer to GENTLY make a whole at the smallest end or the end that is not open. But make it just big enough for the female. I got the idea from a member named "anubisscott" who kept Midas very successfully this way.
Amphilophus Citrinellus vs Amph. "Red Isletas"
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Not sure I just asked for a pair from Rapps and he sent them. I dont think so though he is not really interested in her much and I have to divde them cause with in 5 min of them in the same tank he rips her apart. Yet they are in a 55 right now till I free up some tanks.
Well, I have a Midevil that is really friendly. He got picked on by my flowerhorn, so I moved him in with a group of dempseys, convicts, and a carpintis, and while he was almost an inch bigger than all the others, they picked on him as well. I even had him in with a betta and some platies for a while (while I was swapping some fish from tank to tank) and he was absolutely fine with them. So I guess it depends on what you like better. I personally like the color of the Midas or red devil (mine's a creamsicle) better, but I have heard that the Red Isletas are much more agressive.
I guess we'll have to see... At the moment I'm leaning towards a single big male, but the decision won't happen until I get my tank set up 
Thanks Reggie, I always stay away from dividers because too many times they fall and to be honest I they look like crap. Pots work great, but make sure you have a large one to be the main cave for the pair that they can both fit into. Then get 2-3 smaller ones that only the female can fit in, but make sure she can easily turn around and relax so during times of aggression she can remain in there comfortably for an extended time. Usually,this keeps the male calm as he knows at any time the female can easily duck away. Here are a couple of my past set ups so you can see. I have done this for over 10years now this way and have "NEVER" have lost a female to aggression, let alone have one brutalized.
The parents of my current male. I liked them, but they didn't reach their full potential as I wanted. The male was a finicky eater. It took Junior less then a year to catch him in size. I just wish he would have got those cat eyes from his parents, but his color puts theirs to shame. Speaking of, I need to take a new video.
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Here is my old pair of Midas. I unfortunately had to sell them when I joined the Air Force and the new owner lost them before I could recover them when he lost interest. Always upsets me to think he kept Angels, Rams, and Discus; but couldn't seem to keep a pair of Midas.
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Now one thing I would like to add is I don't believe a pair should be kept in anything short of a 120g. A 75-80g is just to small, especially for a mature breeding pair. Good luck with whatever you choose. Can't go wrong with either one. Me personally I would go with a Creamsickle Midas. They are my favorite.
Now one thing I would like to add is I don't believe a pair should be kept in anything short of a 120g. A 75-80g is just to small, especially for a mature breeding pair. Good luck with whatever you choose. Can't go wrong with either one. Me personally I would go with a Creamsickle Midas. They are my favorite.
Makes sense, having the extra 2 feet would make a lot of difference in terms of aggression. Sounds like a single specimen is definitely where I'm headed... Now to decided between species again haha
Althought the wet pet thing is great i think the isletas will be fine in a 75 as a pair. They stay smaller amd temd to be a lil less aggressive from what ive seen. Just dont buy one and regret not getting another because adding another for a pair later will end with a dead fish probly after the single demands the tank for itself. I say go for a pair. The red isletas catches my eye more than any midas
Sounds like a good idea. From what I have yet to see a R.I. get as large as a Midas, but they still get at least 12". My advice would be grow out a male in the 80g. Then after a year or two when he reaches his max potential, get the female. This will give you time to procure a 120g plus and your male will also be better for it.
Jeff will always have Red Isletas at one point or another as he was the first(and I beleive the only) distributor to bring them in. Just might not be right at the exact moment you want them. I will have to wait for a female to get for my male Midas as he sold out of larger females.
Love the vids anubisscott it was your fish that encouraged me to go with my old pair of Midas. I hate dividers also and was looking for an alternative and your method seemed perfect. The biggest trouble I have found is my female sometimes has a tough time finding the hole in the pot and when chased will still retreat to the top corner of the tank. Hopefully that changes. I agree with the 6ft tank for the isletas. They may not be as nasty as Midas but they are still aggressive. Conspecific aggression Is different than intraspecific aggression. No matter how mild a fish is they are always much more aggressive toward their own kind.
Reggie,
Try using 2-3 smaller pots. if she has more then one spot if she misses one she can dart to the next. Due to the male's increased size and girth the female will be faster and more agile. She just might need some time to get some distance, so more then one safe pot will make it easier for her to loose him.
Try using 2-3 smaller pots. if she has more then one spot if she misses one she can dart to the next. Due to the male's increased size and girth the female will be faster and more agile. She just might need some time to get some distance, so more then one safe pot will make it easier for her to loose him.
