Amphilophus Hogaboomorum

[DanG13]

What tank dimensions if you don't mind me asking?

On a side note, my midas has been acting wierd of late. She hides in the top corner at the back behind my powerhead, when she does come out she darts everywhere and she has even bumped into the glass a lot. She is not being a "glass banger" either. She also been listing to her right side a lot and refusing to eat much.

Nothing has changed, she just started to act this way. It is the bumping, listing and darting that is worrying me more than not eating much. Anyone got any thoughts?

They are all in a 200g (96x24x20) but I have a 240g (96x24x24) also. So if at some point aggression kick up a notch I can separate them.

She sounds sick bro...hit up Lupin. He is very informative on fish diseases.

 

[cichlid2006]

I have been reading about something I suspected after I got her almost 18 months ago, that she may have Lymphocystis. Very mild compared to the pictures I find on most sites explaining it and it doesn't seem to have spread beyond a few spots on the base of her tail and a couple os small ones on her body and pectoral fins.
I suspect that a secondary infection has hit her but I can't be sure, maybe in the tank move or I have caught her slightly during a sand vac and opened her up without realising.

 

[Rara12]

I keep a 12" male in a 285 community with no problems at all. I had to sell his wifey as she was alot more aggressive and the two of them were just a bad idea. But now that its just him i havent had a problem and the fish in the tank range from 4" to 16"

 

[Dan F]

You have been a help, your opinion and experience is appreciated. No need to apologise.

I'm so confused, so many nice fish but only one or two spots for 8-10" fish availible in my tank. I have the option of:

Amphilophus lyonsii
Amphilophus Robertsoni
Crenicichla menezesi
F1 Peru True Rivulatus
Grammodes
Istlanum
Herichthys Carpintis Vontehillo

I have four A. robertsoni in a community setting (Eartheaters, Festivums, and Angels) and they seem to be fine. They are still relatively small, but I think they are going to be fine.

 

[Aquamojo]

I have one that I keep in a 55 gallon by himself. He's about 8-9 inches. Pretty aggressive. I had him in with a few other cichlids and he was chasing/trying to fight them constantly. Now that he's in the 55, he attacks the heater, his reflection, etc. Not sure if you want it in a community setting. As for information, you are correct. There isn't much out there. Mine is an F1, that came from a pair bred by Rapps. Gorgeous fish. Good personality also.

If you got the fish from Jeff, the F1 hogamoomorum are from my wild pair. I don't beleive he kept any of the wild fish I gave him...unless he got them from another source. As the Amphilophus species goes....they are not nearly as aggressive as most. That being said, it's still a large cichlid and can be unpredictable. I have my trio in a 180 gallon tank with 6 Metynsis and a small female Synspilum. If you plan on having them in with other cichlids in a "community" setting, i would recommend letting them grow out together.

Do either one of you guys know how big they get? Mine is about a year old and is a good 8-9 inches, with a solid build. Might have to upgrade his tank if he gets much bigger.

The largest male in my tank is 12". The female is 9" that's about max size.

Hi,
I am after some info regarding Amphilophus Hogaboomorum and how well they can be integrated into a community setting. 2 pages pop up on the search but the majority of posts are from Aquamojo, beautiful but not informative. The rest are random suggestions or a single mention for tanks much larger than my own. i also do not know a shortened name or common name for these to search them.
I am able to pick up a 3-4" one and I will be removing some tankmates in my sig.

How are these fish with tankmates?
I know cichlids are all different but generally speaking how aggressive are they, i.e. red devil aggressive, oscar aggressive, firemouth aggressive (all bark but no bite) or are they ok as long as they are top dog?

Many thanks for your help in advance,

Dave

Dave...as stated above...my experience is they are not as aggressive as the Citrinellum, Labiatum or many of the other large type fish in their class. I don't know how to measure the aggression against the other fish you mentioned.

We collected the Hogs (If there is a common name...that's it. They were actually named after two brothers George and Peter Hogaboom.) in the Rio Cholteca in Honduras. The fish only occurs in the Río Choluteca basin in southern Honduras on the Pacific slope. the water in Rio Cholteca is relatively soft and warm...85-90 degrees. That said, mine breed like rabbits and I keep the temperature around 75 degrees and the water comes out of the pipe hard as nails. So they're very adaptable...as most of the Amphilophus group.

There's no known information on specifically what they eat in the wild. It's speculated that they require a diet much like A. citrinellum...meaning Insects and their larvae, detritus and given the chance, small fish.

There really isn't much information out there beyond this. Until recently they were not well known in the hobby. I was glad to get some in Jeff's hands to get them back out into the hobby. Since then I have spread the fry around through the convention and various club auctions. With time we will get more about their behavior in the aquarium...and hopefully someday the wild.

If I can answer anything more specific, please ask. Glad to offer anything except what i think will cohabit with the fish. That's always a crap shoot.

 

[cichlid2006]

I have four A. robertsoni in a community setting (Eartheaters, Festivums, and Angels) and they seem to be fine. They are still relatively small, but I think they are going to be fine.

Thanks for the info Dan, I have always read that Robertsoni were highly aggressive to conspecifics. Your setup blows that theory away. Thanks for sharing.

If you got the fish from Jeff, the F1 hogamoomorum are from my wild pair. I don't beleive he kept any of the wild fish I gave him...unless he got them from another source. As the Amphilophus species goes....they are not nearly as aggressive as most. That being said, it's still a large cichlid and can be unpredictable. I have my trio in a 180 gallon tank with 6 Metynsis and a small female Synspilum. If you plan on having them in with other cichlids in a "community" setting, i would recommend letting them grow out together.
The largest male in my tank is 12". The female is 9" that's about max size.

Dave...as stated above...they are not as aggressive as the Citrinellum, Labiatum or many of the other large type fish in their class. I don't know how to measure the aggression against the other fish you mentioned.

We collected the Hogs (If there is a common name...that's it. They were actually named after two brothers George and Peter Hogaboom.) in the Rio Cholteca in Honduras. The fish only occurs in the Río Choluteca basin in southern Honduras on the Pacific slope. the water in Rio Cholteca is relatively soft and warm...85-90 degrees. That said, mine breed like rabbits and I keep the temperature around 75 degrees and the water comes out of the pipe hard as nails. So they're very adaptable...as most of the Amphilophus group.

There's no known information on specifically what they eat in the wild. It's speculated that they require a diet much like A. citrinellum...meaning Insects and their larvae, detritus and given the chance, small fish.

There really isn't much information out there beyond this. Until recently they were not well known in the hobby. I was glad to get some in Jeff's hands to get them back out into the hobby. Since then I have spread the fry around through the convention and various club auctions. With time we will get more about their behavior in the aquarium...and hopefully someday the wild.

If I can answer anything more specific, please ask. Glad to offer anything except what i think will cohabit with the fish. That's always a crap shoot.

Thanks Aquamojo. You have given me more information about them in that single post than I have been able to find in a few days. Many thanks for that.

 

[cichlid2006]

All but the lyonsii, robertsoni and istlanum are out because the place I was going to buy from is charging £24 for delivery. That is almost double anywhere else.