An experiment: Please define these "gun" terms

[krzr3000]

Climate change? LOL

Yeah, oil is definitely evil. I hate the stuff. I even protested when Pelosi flew her private oil pumping jet out to DC a month ago for a global warming conference, only to get snowed out.

I'm not evening getting started on global warming, but I do have to say it's amusing watching the "buzz word" change from global warming to climate change as we have the coldest winter on record.

Just to note it was global warming in the media only. Its always been climate change in an academic/scientific setting.

 

[ewurm]

No an AK wont do well against a tank, but thats not how guerilla warfare goes down. Usually its man on man with small arms.

Im not sure what "movement" you are talking about, but guns and gun rights in the country are only getting better. The US supreme court has FINALLY agreed that the 2nd is NOT for sporting/hunting purposes with the Heller case.

You asked for an outside opinion. That's what I gave. An objective point of view from someone who has no interest in it whatsoever. Their is no guerilla warfare in this country. If it comes to that, you have bigger problems to worry about.

 

[ewurm]

The second amendment has nothing to do with personal safety. When it was written, there was no Army. The people of the colonies defended the nation. They were citizen soldiers, and they wanted to insure their right to defend the nation. Fast forward to now, where our nation is the strongest and safest nation in the world. Our military and technology exudes dominance and much of the free world is counting on it for protection. There is no need for a "militia", and that right to bear arms applies to the nation defending itself, not individuals. The rights you speak of are not rights, but they are privileges that can and should be revoked when necessary. The constitution and the bill of rights are a guideline for the principles of our country to be interpreted by judicial system. There's your non- ultra right wing gun lover assessment of the 2nd amendment.

 

[Donny417]

The second amendment has nothing to do with personal safety. When it was written, there was no Army. The people of the colonies defended the nation. They were citizen soldiers, and they wanted to insure their right to defend the nation. Fast forward to now, where our nation is the strongest and safest nation in the world. Our military and technology exudes dominance and much of the free world is counting on it for protection. There is no need for a "militia", and that right to bear arms applies to the nation defending itself, not individuals. The rights you speak of are not rights, but they are privileges that can and should be revoked when necessary. The constitution and the bill of rights are a guideline for the principles of our country to be interpreted by judicial system. There's your non- ultra right wing gun lover assessment of the 2nd amendment.

I'd be interested to know if you view all rights as privileges (freedom of speech, religion, right to a fair trial, self incrimination, expression, etc) that can and should be revoked when necessary.

If not, and it's only the 2nd amendment you express this view towards, whats the difference in your opinion?

Lastly, who determines when it's "necessary"?

Interesting stuff! I appreciate your point of view.

 

[Donny417]

Just to note it was global warming in the media only. Its always been climate change in an academic/scientific setting.

There's an academic/scientific setting for climate change? Is there scientists in it or just politicians, hippies, and Al Gore?

 

[krzr3000]

There's an academic/scientific setting for climate change? Is there scientists in it or just politicians, hippies, and Al Gore?

I'm not sure what you mean, its not a new concept. The climate is always changing, and relatively recent changes have caused media frenzies and "global warming" is born. I'm a senior in college, environmental studies minor and in the past 4 years i have yet to hear a prof call it "global warming." It has been a hot topic for a while now, and al gore has nothing to do with the legit data and reports out there.