Angels or Denison barbs with rams?

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I have a 55 gallon heavily plants tank currently housing a Siamese flying fox (algae eater), some ghost shrimp and 5 German blue rams. I am looking for some upper level dwellers. I have come down to Denison barbs (roseline sharks) or angelfish. Which will get along better with my rams and how many of that fish can I keep in my 55 with the rams? I know the barbs can get along with small schoolers, so I'm thinking of adding a school of 10-15 rummy nose with the barbs if I go that route. If I get the angels, can I do the same thing?


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I'd go with angels! When full grown they will be amazing in there. I have a 60gal with 2 discus, 3 rams, 3 angelicus botia, 5 peppered cories and a couple algae eaters and the mix of sizes gives a great look!
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The discus always want to look at me, never let me get a good side shot! LOL

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MrGillz said:
I'd go with angels! When full grown they will be amazing in there. I have a 60gal with 2 discus, 3 rams, 3 angelicus botia, 5 peppered cories and a couple algae eaters and the mix of sizes gives a great look!
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The discus always want to look at me, never let me get a good side shot! LOL
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How difficult is it to maintain your discus? I have heard some say its no worse than other sensitive fish like German blue rams, but others say its a nightmare of daily 50%+ water changes. Honestly I want discus so very bad, but the price combined with the LFS's crappy return policy and the stories I hear make me super leery of buying any.

I read that having less than 4 discus will result in violence amongst their ranks. Do your two beat on each other at all?


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MrGillz said:
I'd go with angels! When full grown they will be amazing in there. I have a 60gal with 2 discus, 3 rams, 3 angelicus botia, 5 peppered cories and a couple algae eaters and the mix of sizes gives a great look!
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The discus always want to look at me, never let me get a good side shot! LOL
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And I was thinking about a bottom scavenger crew, but if I would have to do daily water changes, there would be little point to having any. Plus the cories I have in mind would likely make my breeding rams nervous and eat all their fry if the cories don't do that for them.


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i would suggest nothing as your discus will get stressed because of the bio-load increasing. The Denisonii are fast movers and they will stress the discus especially as they grow to the 6 inch torpedoes they become (I love these babies). In that size of a tank stress will then be at the maximum. Maybe spend you money on more plants and at least three more discus as yours are getting to the size where they will start being more aggressive with one another for breeding and it takes 5 to deter one from being picked on. Discus love subdued lighting so get plants that require low light and add some floating plants such as water wisteria or water sprite or even some salvia.
 
vanman said:
i would suggest nothing as your discus will get stressed because of the bio-load increasing. The Denisonii are fast movers and they will stress the discus especially as they grow to the 6 inch torpedoes they become (I love these babies). In that size of a tank stress will then be at the maximum. Maybe spend you money on more plants and at least three more discus as yours are getting to the size where they will start being more aggressive with one another for breeding and it takes 5 to deter one from being picked on. Discus love subdued lighting so get plants that require low light and add some floating plants such as water wisteria or water sprite or even some salvia.
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I don't own any discus. Just considering getting some. And if I do go the route of discus, I would pass on the Denison barbs, as beautiful as they are. If I get discus, the entire stock would be 5 rams and 3-4 discus and that is all.


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