Another 240 Gal Sump question.
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rhodes_96;4505316; said:
Nope, it's just a plain Jane rubber washer.
xx WinZero xx - Call this an experiment. This is being done in an effort to emulate a Bean system, which is to say that if it doesn't work I have a back-up plan which is more traditionally minded.
Update pics.
New and improved overflow bar
I think one of the principles of the beananimal is that it works on a full siphon. I don't think your system will create that.... unless I'm missing it somewhere?
Your drain from the tank is on the right (as you look at the pic), there is a ____ in the center, and a safety on the left? I assume that's also the return on the left.
Your drain from the tank is on the right (as you look at the pic), there is a ____ in the center, and a safety on the left? I assume that's also the return on the left.
Clay;4508506; said:
Your understanding is correct and this is an issue which has been raised by the modified method that I am attempting.
The two primary drains are on the right and fed by the horizontal bar and the emergency drain is on the left along with the two pump returns.
I don't actually know if this system will work. What will happen is the drain closest to the front of the tank will be my full siphon for ease of access since this tank will eventually be shoved into a corner. If that front drain is tuned such that it keeps water in the horizontal channel, even just a little bit, there will be no cascading water to introduce air into the system. There is the chance of a vortex forming however which will make the entire system noisy. If there is communication in the water level between the siphon drain and the durso style drain then the system should be quiet and function as per the BeanAnimal. In the event that this doesn't pan out the current plan of action is to go just to straight overflows and live with the noise for a little while until I can have a Glass-Holes.com style overflow made and utilize a Herbie setup with my emergency overflow still being the one on the left.
ok, I get it. I didn't understand at first. You could probably test it as a mock up in a Rubbermaid tub. You could get set it up exactly as you have here and fine tune everything. Just a thought. I'd be very interested in seeing how your bar performs. It looks like it should work and keep it silent.
Fingers crossed!
Fingers crossed!
well, test filled the tank tonight and much to my relief it doesn't leak and it didn't topple over and kill itself. I'm very pleased and it looks like my fish will have a new home by the weekend! Pics to follow.
Well... aparently I lied about having pics. Turns out that despite my clear recollection of taking them they don't seem to be on my camera. In other news, moving the tank back IN-side after the test filling has been put on hold until Wednesday. Reason being that our apartment is getting new carpeting as the current carpeting is soiled beyond saving according to our landlord's rug cleaner guy. So the new carpet which looks exactly like the old carpet will be in Wednesday and we'll be moving the tank back inside hopefully the same day. At which point I'll finish the plumbing and then start scaping the tank. I get the feeling I'm going to be buying another 100lbs or more of sand before this is over. Good thing I get paid in a week.
And in other other news the internet is alive again, though there really isn't much more to say on the topic. lol
And in other other news the internet is alive again, though there really isn't much more to say on the topic. lol
Okay, so the tank is up and has fish in it. This proved to be an extremely challenging move as I didn't have the equipment to have the 240 setup prior to moving the old 55 gallon tank. As a result, having to move two 55 gallon tanks and netting some 40+ fish between the two proved to be a more significant undertaking than anticipated. This coupled with the nearly hour long commute from old location to new location with all the equipment and everything else proved to be fatal for two of the fish and I'm down a giant danio, which I'm not super upset about, and my smallest clown loach who gasped his last shortly after the fish had finished their float time in the tank. He wasn't looking good at all when we arrived and was pretty much non-responsive to much of anything, though he was breathing, and didn't have any attitude control (he was doing the belly up thing) from the time his bag was unpacked to when I put him in a floating breeder/birthing box to keep an eye on him after the other fish were released into the tank.
Fortunately the fish from the girlfriend's 55 all made it none the worse for wear and my remaining 15 fish all came through as well. I was surprised to find that 5 of my 6 Oto cats that I hadn't seen since I put my old tank up were still alive and well. I guess my old tank was a little more overgrown than I would have thought that those little guys would have been able to hide so well that I hadn't seen them in almost 2 years.
I still have yet to get a pump for the sump to run off of and filter duty is being handled by my Cascade 1500 (under filtered anyone?) with a pair of Penguin 660R's as backup. I'd like to get the sump situation squared away, but I realized that I can't use my 55 since it's too tall to run the pipes straight into and I really don't feel like drilling holes in the glass to get the pipes in. Sooooo I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do now. I could run the drain pipes around the back of the tank, but that would be putting even MORE convolutions into the piping which I'm not all that excited about. Or I can go with a shorter tank, yet again, like a 40 long or something along the lines of a rubbermaid tub.
Anyway I look at it, the solution is going to be less than ideal. But anyway, a couple pictures.
Old digs
New digs after a couple hours. Water's a little foggy here and it's finally settled down today enough to see the entire tank without a haze. The joys of being under filtered.
Once I figure out what I'm going to do about my sump I'll get more filtration going on this beast and start using the overflows. But for now, I need to get my plants planted, but to do that I'm going to need to get a grabber tool. The tank's too deep for me to reach into and be able to touch anything near the bottom.
Fortunately the fish from the girlfriend's 55 all made it none the worse for wear and my remaining 15 fish all came through as well. I was surprised to find that 5 of my 6 Oto cats that I hadn't seen since I put my old tank up were still alive and well. I guess my old tank was a little more overgrown than I would have thought that those little guys would have been able to hide so well that I hadn't seen them in almost 2 years.
I still have yet to get a pump for the sump to run off of and filter duty is being handled by my Cascade 1500 (under filtered anyone?) with a pair of Penguin 660R's as backup. I'd like to get the sump situation squared away, but I realized that I can't use my 55 since it's too tall to run the pipes straight into and I really don't feel like drilling holes in the glass to get the pipes in. Sooooo I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do now. I could run the drain pipes around the back of the tank, but that would be putting even MORE convolutions into the piping which I'm not all that excited about. Or I can go with a shorter tank, yet again, like a 40 long or something along the lines of a rubbermaid tub.
Anyway I look at it, the solution is going to be less than ideal. But anyway, a couple pictures.
Old digs
New digs after a couple hours. Water's a little foggy here and it's finally settled down today enough to see the entire tank without a haze. The joys of being under filtered.
Once I figure out what I'm going to do about my sump I'll get more filtration going on this beast and start using the overflows. But for now, I need to get my plants planted, but to do that I'm going to need to get a grabber tool. The tank's too deep for me to reach into and be able to touch anything near the bottom.
