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willtang3000;3766129; said:
To back up my theory, as you can see in the below video fatty deposits are being removed from behind the arowana's eye sockets caused by a bad diet of probably mamallian meat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2LEclFiZAA&feature=related
Looks kinda like a thin skin membrane to me. Anyway, even aros that are never fed mamallian meat have gotten DE. Back to the OP's point about the glare, if you take a look at that huge ass sticky that combines like everything, theres one that shows a picture under water of the glass panes. There is no reflection or glare at all. We only assume there is a glare as we can see one on the glass on the outside. Ever thought about head trauma being the culprit? http://microcosmaqx.typepad.com/jay_hemdal/2009/03/eyedroop-in-arowanas-and-arapaima-gigas.html This is a pretty good read. Thanks to Bderick for finding this.
 
willtang3000;3766129; said:
I am a firm believer that drop eye is caused by diet more than anything else. Many people think that the reflection on the base of the tank causes them to look down. This is not true as the arowana does not see this reflection due to refraction in the water; it is only yourself that will see the reflection because you are not in the water.

To back up my theory, as you can see in the below video fatty deposits are being removed from behind the arowana's eye sockets caused by a bad diet of probably mamallian meat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2LEclFiZAA&feature=related

How do you know the tissue that is being removed is fat?
 
koldsoup;3766728; said:
I've read that arowana in ponds are less likely to get DE, so how does that play a role in this?

Yes, there have been a few people report this. Could be that in a pond there is nothing for the aro to bash it's head against.
 
Gshock;3766232; said:
Looks kinda like a thin skin membrane to me. Anyway, even aros that are never fed mamallian meat have gotten DE. Back to the OP's point about the glare, if you take a look at that huge ass sticky that combines like everything, theres one that shows a picture under water of the glass panes. There is no reflection or glare at all. We only assume there is a glare as we can see one on the glass on the outside. Ever thought about head trauma being the culprit? http://microcosmaqx.typepad.com/jay_hemdal/2009/03/eyedroop-in-arowanas-and-arapaima-gigas.html This is a pretty good read. Thanks to Bderick for finding this.

i beleve he showed me this article also...or i read it from the thread that it came from(i can't remember) i didn't read it till after my aro jumped and got it after the jump and came to the trama conclution in my aro...after reading it trama is my main reasoning along with the genetics...the reason i don't base it all on trama is cause, pimas, blacks, jars all jump at some point in there lives and have trama,(granted not all jumps are as hard as others), yet there still is very few cases of them with de....were as the heavly farm bred aros have many more cases...
 
willtang3000;3768182; said:
Fat can be stored in almost anywhere in the body. Tissue however, is only in specific places.

Nice sidestepping:screwy: Again, how do you know what they are removing from behind the arowana's eye is fat? You got a link to some kind of valid proof, or is this just what you've heard?
 
willtang3000;3766129; said:
I am a firm believer that drop eye is caused by diet more than anything else. Many people think that the reflection on the base of the tank causes them to look down. This is not true as the arowana does not see this reflection due to refraction in the water; it is only yourself that will see the reflection because you are not in the water.

To back up my theory, as you can see in the below video fatty deposits are being removed from behind the arowana's eye sockets caused by a bad diet of probably mamallian meat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2LEclFiZAA&feature=related
I disagree, I have been feeding my aro Hikari Cicklid Gold, FD Krill, bloodworms, and brine shrimp since I got it at 5 inches, and it developed DE at 6.5- 7".
 
drgnfrc13;3768476; said:
I disagree, I have been feeding my aro Hikari Cicklid Gold, FD Krill, bloodworms, and brine shrimp since I got it at 5 inches, and it developed DE at 6.5- 7".

did it hit its head on the tank?
 
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