Another Hunting Thread - How Do You Guys Feel About This?

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This is not true at all. Just cause its on the internet doesn't make it true. I am supermodel so you should believe me LOL.

One of my favorite quotes "Never in life have we as a society had access to so much information but have such little knowledge" Do your research and check your sources. Any one can create a website and post articles. Even our "Journalists" today are nothing but glorified opinionist.

First, I suggest you take some of your own advice.

Second, What's not true...the part about the animals being killed inhumanely???

Third, I didn't post an article...I posted a link to videos (in the comment you quoted me on)

Last, Watch a video, any of them...you don't have to read a word. It speaks for itself.
 
I couldn't even read through all the nonsense before my mind started to explode. These animals are NOT ENDANGERED. They are not even rare. I love how people add words and others fly with it. Do some research people!

People pay allot of money for these hunts and the meat and money goes to local villages. Money is also used for the conservation of wild life. Hunters do more and care more and spend more on wild life than all the people sitting back and crying about it.

North American director for the International Fund for Animal Welfare.
 
BTW isn't this against the MFK rules? My target shooting thread got shut down in less than 2 pages and this is on page 10. I didn't even have pictures of dead animals. We were talking about putting holes in paper and tin cans. Seems a little unfair here.


Really??? Close this thread cause my "target shooting thread got shut down" ?

What a baby!
 
Really??? Close this thread cause my "target shooting thread got shut down" ?

What a baby!

No being a baby just showing that depending on what side of an issue you fall on depends on what kind of treatment you get.
 
First, I suggest you take some of your own advice.

Second, What's not true...the part about the animals being killed inhumanely???

Third, I didn't post an article...I posted a link to videos (in the comment you quoted me on)

Last, Watch a video, any of them...you don't have to read a word. It speaks for itself.

Whats not true is the animals are not endangered and people that cna afford these hunts also can afford very expensive high powered equipment the usually puts the animal down with one shot.

A few videos were selected to prove a point of a propaganda website. The sight you linked to had no validity to it. It wasn't even a real organization it was storify. I am actually not a hunter but I am a proponent of wildlife conservation. I have seen the lies and tactics of the Anti hunters and it makes me sick. I can't believe people fall for it. research the facts and you will see.
 
North American director for the International Fund for Animal Welfare.


Thank you for pointing that out FMA4ME.

Apparently, Rivers2k doesn't seem to grasp the concept that the Director of an established conservation group is not just some glorified opinionist writing on some godaddy website.

According to him-

The International Fund for Animal Welfare falls under the category of "Any one can create a website and post articles." -

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The North American director of the International Fund for Animal Welfare falls under "Journalists" today are nothing but glorified opinionist.
 
Thank you for pointing that out FMA4ME.

Apparently, Rivers2k doesn't seem to grasp the concept that the Director of an established conservation group is not just some glorified opinionist writing on some godaddy website.

According to him-

The International Fund for Animal Welfare falls under the category of "Any one can create a website and post articles." -

AND

The North American director of the International Fund for Animal Welfare falls under "Journalists" today are nothing but glorified opinionist.

What does North American Director of Internation Fund have to do with your like. your article was by some guy name david shants???? Not seeing the correlation. But thats getting off topic.

Still stand by what I said. Even those "journalist" today that agree with my way of thinking are still "opinionists" When was the last time you have seen and article use FACTS look at real statistics. what I am saying is people are all crying about these animals without knowing any of the facts.

I still wonder why my target shooting thread was shut down and this one the makes hunters look like criminals are allowed to stay open when it specifically says in the rules threads about hunting and guns are not tolerated. Think about it.
 
Whats not true is the animals are not endangered and people that cna afford these hunts also can afford very expensive high powered equipment the usually puts the animal down with one shot.

A few videos were selected to prove a point of a propaganda website. The sight you linked to had no validity to it. It wasn't even a real organization it was storify. I am actually not a hunter but I am a proponent of wildlife conservation. I have seen the lies and tactics of the Anti hunters and it makes me sick. I can't believe people fall for it. research the facts and you will see.

I'm not against hunting. Let's make that very clear. I'm against the hunting of certain animals that have typically been exploited for their "exotic" qualities and thus have now been left with populations a fraction of the size that they were 100 yrs. ago.

As far as the high powered weapons you are referring to, it still takes quite a few shots to bring a large animal down and several minutes before they die. These videos aren't undercover sting videos released to show the cruelty of the hunt. These are videos released as promotional videos by the hunting organizations that put on these hunts to show perspective clients "how cool it is". These are considered successful hunts and are still hard to watch. I would hate to see the ones where the hunt doesn't go as planned...The fact that these successful hunts can be used as you say "propaganda" just goes to show you how awful they are...even when everything goes as planned.
 
Opinion: Why Are We Still Hunting Lions?

How can we save lions when Americans are killing them for sport?


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A safari vehicle comes close to a roaring young male lion at the Central Kalahari Game Reserve in Botswana.

PHOTOGRAPH BY RALPH LEE HOPKINS, NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC STOCK

Jeff Flocken
for National Geographic
PUBLISHED JULY 31, 2013


Editor's note: Jeff Flocken is North American director for the International Fund for Animal Welfare.


The United States government is considering whether to add lions to the list of species protected by the Endangered Species Act. Such protection would ban the importation of dead trophy lions into the U.S.


The proposed move, supported by a coalition of wildlife groups that includes my own, the International Fund for Animal Welfare, raises an obvious question: Why on Earth are we still allowing this animal to be killed for "fun" when it's in danger of disappearing from the wild in our lifetimes?


The most recent study, led by a scientist from Duke University, shows that as few as 32,000 lions are left in the wild. Many experts say there could be far fewer. (See an interactive experience on the Serengeti lion.)


While habitat loss and human-wildlife conflict (often in the form of retaliatory killings after lions kill livestock and sometimes even humans) are the primary causes of the lions' disappearance from Africa's forests and savannahs, trophy hunting adds to the problem. Approximately 600 lions are killed every year on trophy hunts, including lions in populations that are already declining from other threats. These hunts are unsustainable and put more pressure on the species.


Unfortunately, Americans are primarily to blame. Approximately 60 percent of all lions killed for sport in Africa are shipped to the U.S. as trophies.


There are several reasons why trophy hunting is so bad for lions, beyond the obvious one that it kills healthy members of an imperiled species. The adult male lion is the most sought-after trophy by wealthy foreign hunters. And when an adult male lion is killed, the destabilization of that lion's pride can lead to more lion deaths as outside males compete to take over the pride.


Once a new male is in the dominant position, he will often kill the cubs sired by the pride's previous leader, resulting in the loss of an entire lion generation within the pride.


Trophy hunting is also counter-evolutionary, as it's based on selectively taking the large, robust, and healthy males from a population for a hunter's trophy room. These are the same crucial individuals that in a natural system would live long, full lives, protecting their mates and cubs and contributing their genes to future generations.


Despite the wild claims that trophy hunting brings millions of dollars in revenue to local people in otherwise poor communities, there is no proof of this. Even pro-hunting organizations like the International Council for Game and Wildlife Conservation have reported that only 3 percent of revenue from trophy hunting ever makes it to the communities affected by hunting. The rest goes to national governments or foreign-based outfitters.


The money that does come into Africa from hunting pales in comparison to the billions and billions generated from tourists who come just to watch wildlife. If lions and other animals continue to disappear from Africa, this vital source of income—nonconsumptive tourism—will end, adversely impacting people all over Africa.


Attempts to introduce sustainable methods for sport hunting of lions have been discussed for decades. But the lion population continues to decline, and reform of the hunting industry appears to be far off. Even a new, much-hyped method of targeting aging lions, so that the animals are killed after contributing to the genetic pool, are difficult to pull off and rely on age verification after the lion has already been killed.


African lions are the only big cat not currently protected under the Endangered Species Act.


Listing African lions as an endangered species and banning trophy imports to the U.S. would send an important message: The African lion is disappearing, and the global community needs to act to stop the trend before it is too late or too costly to reverse.


It's a message that won't be heard as long as it is common and legal to kill lions for sport. Why should anyone spend money to protect an animal that a wealthy American can then pay to go kill?



https://storify.com/DShantz/pay-to-kill-business-is-big-money


It has to do with this.

AND Seriously, you remind me of a little Tattletale. Go cry to the mods to close this thread since your "target" practice thread got closed. SUCH A BABY!

What does North American Director of Internation Fund have to do with your like. your article was by some guy name david shants???? Not seeing the correlation. But thats getting off topic.

Still stand by what I said. Even those "journalist" today that agree with my way of thinking are still "opinionists" When was the last time you have seen and article use FACTS look at real statistics. what I am saying is people are all crying about these animals without knowing any of the facts.

I still wonder why my target shooting thread was shut down and this one the makes hunters look like criminals are allowed to stay open when it specifically says in the rules threads about hunting and guns are not tolerated. Think about it.
 
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