Another Malaysia Airlines plane crashes.

[vitaly]

A target....depending on who is operating the weapon.Ive recently heard that civilian and military aircraft don't fly at the same heights.I'm wondering what the authorities there intend to do with the bodies and the belongings of the dead passengers.

i have read in the local press that the bodies are already on a train. i guess they are going to ship them home

 

[krichardson]

Well that's a good thing for the relatives of the victims I guess.I was watching a news show and some talking head was hinting that some looting might have been going on.

 

[ballinouttacntrol]

Well that's a good thing for the relatives of the victims I guess.I was watching a news show and some talking head was hinting that some looting might have been going on.

Well theyre dead...they dont need it. Of couurse what was useful was taken. It was the whole purpose of shooting down a cargo plane


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[ballinouttacntrol]

cargo planes carry troops, so i guess they are legitimate target. the media is ignoring a fact that the junta (the new ukrainian government) have been using
airforce to bomb major cities in eastern ukraine. while i am sure russia, does help some. it is mostly a ukrainian civil war.

the government in kiev is the one that is going to benefit from this tragedy. they have been loosing the war against eastern militias (not pro-russian rebels).
now they'll have an excuse to step up the bombing campaigh and igore all the dead civilians.
so i wouldn't be surprised if they shot the plane down in order to frame the militias. that's my theory. i am ukrainian, and i know for a fact that
the people in power now are ruthless thugs.

So you think the government shot down the plane, pretended it was the separists , doctored some audio pretending it was an accident and then released it to the media? why not doctor something more incriminating?


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[Zoodiver]

With what (limited) aviation background I have, I have a hard time believing they didn't know it was a commercial airline when they fired on it.

 

[krichardson]

Well theyre dead...they dont need it. Of couurse what was useful was taken. It was the whole purpose of shooting down a cargo plane.

Well,I doubt if the clean up crew are with the people who shot down the plane and I don't know what the rebels purpose for shooting it down was,sounds like they misidentified it.

 

[darth pike]

Was just chatting up my da on this actually, and he used to be ATC in the military so is used to dealing with radar systems quite extensively. What it basically boiled down to was any novice, if looking at the screen, would be able to tell that it was a commercial flight and not a military one (or even cargo). BUT, if they were in the middle of battle, they could have just locked on and fired without confirming the target. He mentioned that is what (probably) happened to that US ship downing the Iranian flight a few years back (mentioned above I think).

 

[krichardson]

Is your dad familiar with the weapon system that was used in this case?I saw photos of it but wasn't sure if it had any kind of screen?

 

[vitaly]

So you think the government shot down the plane, pretended it was the separists , doctored some audio pretending it was an accident and then released it to the media? why not doctor something more incriminating?


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it seems pretty incriminating too me. remember 10 years ago when a US backed ukrainian presidential candidate said that he was poisoned by russians.
well, he got elected on a sympathy. he is still alive and well. and to this day refuses to submitt his blood to be tested for dioxin poison. the reality was that he probably got a bad injection of botox or juviderm. he was thrown out during the last election when he got less than 3% vote.

so i am guessing that we got another false flag with this plane

 

[Bottomfeeder]

This is pretty scary on a global scale. Radical factions sanctioned and armed with heavy utilery by the government of one of the largest powers in the world have shot down a passenger plane, launched to and from an uninvolved country, full of civilians from all around the world. If that isnt an act of war, I dont know what is. We're gonna see some crazy stuff go down over the next few weeks.