anxiety?

[Cohazard]

OH...Sorry for the misunderstanding...I am all better now, so that is where I got confused...My bad. Yes I do at times wish I went with the drugs, but I FULLY believe humans can self remedy most any mental hurdles...Which to me is all anxiety is....Good luck Matt.

I agree.

I started getting panic attacks when I moved out on my own in 2006. The pressure of supporting myself for the first time, moving to a new city, working far away, it really screwed with my mind.

I started to get very anxious in public, I couldn't go to malls and I could barely hold it together just going to the store to buy food.

I stopped talking to my friends, I didn't look people in the eyes when talking to them, and I never went anywhere. I wasted two years of my life that way, but I got over it without meds.

I'm strongly against meds. I was prescribed vicatin and I couldn't believe how much I 'wanted' it even when my pain was gone, and I had to used all my self control just to avoid buying it off the streets.


We are conditioned to believe that we 'need' medication to deal with anxiety, but it's all about acknowledging you have a problem and training your mind to overcome. We are strong enough, but all these commercials we see for meds make us think we're not.

My dad fell victim to it and he has been on meds for years now. He's not sociable, it's hard to hold his attention in a conversation, and it gets me down just thinking about it.


Milk, you seem like a cool guy man. I've seen your posts in the past and I know you have it in you to get past this. I wish you the best!

 

[bigspizz]

I agree.

I started getting panic attacks when I moved out on my own in 2006. The pressure of supporting myself for the first time, moving to a new city, working far away, it really screwed with my mind.

I started to get very anxious in public, I couldn't go to malls and I could barely hold it together just going to the store to buy food.

I stopped talking to my friends, I didn't look people in the eyes when talking to them, and I never went anywhere. I wasted two years of my life that way, but I got over it without meds.

I'm strongly against meds. I was prescribed vicatin and I couldn't believe how much I 'wanted' it even when my pain was gone, and I had to used all my self control just to avoid buying it off the streets.


We are conditioned to believe that we 'need' medication to deal with anxiety, but it's all about acknowledging you have a problem and training your mind to overcome. We are strong enough, but all these commercials we see for meds make us think we're not.

My dad fell victim to it and he has been on meds for years now. He's not sociable, it's hard to hold his attention in a conversation, and it gets me down just thinking about it.


Milk, you seem like a cool guy man. I've seen your posts in the past and I know you have it in you to get past this. I wish you the best!

This post matters! That was me to a "T"...Especially the mall, eye contact...etc...When people would ask me what my name was, I would jumble over my words just trying to choke out "Rico".....Even when asked my age, I would panic, and seem "not to know all of the sudden"....I was pretty bad, in fact, I grind-ed out two molars through it all. I have gotten so bad that I would bang my head on concrete....





The day I got better was the day I realized that I loved myself. I found the ancient art of studying. The more I studied, the less I felt any mind pain. Then I challenged myself over and over. I failed over and over, and then again one day, I did not fail a personal self challenge. These challenges were remedial, but they were meaningful to me. Everyone will have a different experience, and this was mine....I probably said too much, but I hope my years of pain, can possibly be crunched down into a bit of advice for a friend.

 

[milkman407]

Appreciate everyone posting, I honestly dont like the idea of meds, even though i'm on them. but I'm gona stop taking them.

Its been 4 days sence an attack, and im gona keep track.

~ Matt

 

[Cohazard]

That's good to hear Matt! I like the suggestions of keeping your mind occupied, studying, music, thinking positive, they all work.

Spizz, I would never have guessed that you suffered through anxiety, you're just too cool man haha but had I know, I would've guessed correctly that you're strong enough to win.

The mind is complex and our understanding of it can be difficult. I read philosophy (mainly Alan Watts, but I'm checking out DT suzuki and other Zen teachers), and that helps me a lot.

 

[bigspizz]

No one cares about #1 better than #1.....

 

[Hdeuce]

I'm not a doctor,(thats my disclaimer). .... Now for my solution, when i was younger i was diagnosed with social anxiety disorder and as a manic depressive (i was like 15) i was put on xanax for a bit , wellebutrin, ritalin for my adhd and prozac , only two at a time not all together. Nothing seemed to work without changing my personality alot. At 16 i started smoking weed , which seemed to cancel out the depression, and started drinking alot which helped with my anxiety buy the time i was 20 i was an alcoholic pothead , but i could go to a party with 100 people or more with no anxiety problems , took me a good 3 years to quit smoking weed completely and slow down on my drinking alot, but i dont have an anxiety or depression problems now. and i barely drink at all anymore.

 

[King Edward]

I was reading an interesting article the other day about triggers of panic attacks. It was saying that some smell molecules have isomers. Isomerism is when a molecule is made of the same atoms in the same shape, but one is like the left hand glove and the other the right...nearly identical, but not quite. This was at the root of the thalidomide disaster...when you make it in the lab, you only get one isomer, which tested as harmless, but when they changed the method of manufacture to make large amounts they made both...the other of which was very unsafe.

They have been testing people and found that the human nose can 'learn' to identify the two different isomers. This happens in people that get really stressed in a situation. So you get stressed say on a train, and the tiny amount of oil in the air you dont even know you can smell is left handed, your body learns to recognise it, and next time you smell left handed oil it will give you a panic attack, which you think is for no reason at all! Its amazing to think about all the cues our body is recieving from the world subconciously.