Any CCW permit holders out there?

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No, if someone wants to carry and they can legally own one, there is ZERO reason for anyone to interfere. And MANY states are(ready for it) consitutional carry!! Eek the horror!! No traing or some dumpy peace of paper. People will be dieing right in left for ADs NDs and murders.

Anyone and everyone, unless a violent felon(few other exceptions) should have a gun. Turn 18, go buy a gun. 21 get a handgun.

No gov interference what so ever. It turns a right, into a previledge.

There are only 4 states that have CC, nowhere near MANY. http://opencarry.org/constcarry.html Ive heard Montana was on the list but it was spotty coverage.

Anyways, this is just me, but everyone that takes on the responsibility to carry a concealed gun needs training. I'll be honest, I learned a lot in my class, many people out there would be lying if they told you different. You dont get a drivers license without being trained at some point, your dad tells you the ropes about hunting, then you get more training if you want to hunt in some states that require you to have an orange card. There are folks out there that make many, many mistakes. Take this for instance, he overlooked one of the most important thing when shooting, always identify your target...what does he do, he shoots his wife, you think he deserves that gun? I dont, not after that incident. http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Ma...7132/11542438/-/218f9q/-/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

The number one mistake is no training or no proper training. http://myweaponspermit.com/top-five-concealed-carry-mistakes/

It would be great if every state was CC, I think KY will be on the list next or close to it.


Unless you are an einstein and no everything there is to know, then everyone should be trained at some point.
 
Those are the states that have it PASSED, not the ones that have legislation introduced. But its cool, right into a privledge. Criminals dont get permits, so I guess it just makes since to make it harder for people to protect themselves turning people into unarmed targets.
 
There are only 4 states that have CC, nowhere near MANY. http://opencarry.org/constcarry.html Ive heard Montana was on the list but it was spotty coverage.

Anyways, this is just me, but everyone that takes on the responsibility to carry a concealed gun needs training. I'll be honest, I learned a lot in my class, many people out there would be lying if they told you different. You dont get a drivers license without being trained at some point, your dad tells you the ropes about hunting, then you get more training if you want to hunt in some states that require you to have an orange card. There are folks out there that make many, many mistakes. Take this for instance, he overlooked one of the most important thing when shooting, always identify your target...what does he do, he shoots his wife, you think he deserves that gun? I dont, not after that incident. http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Ma...7132/11542438/-/218f9q/-/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

The number one mistake is no training or no proper training. http://myweaponspermit.com/top-five-concealed-carry-mistakes/

It would be great if every state was CC, I think KY will be on the list next or close to it.


Unless you are an einstein and no everything there is to know, then everyone should be trained at some point.

I tend to agree with you here. At least have some range time with the gun first. One thing that does piss me off about the laws though is I am not allowed to carry on campus or even have the gun unloaded in a closed locked box in my car if it is parked on campus. I spend 90% of my work week at the University and I will not be able to have it. Very frustrating.
 
As an NRA Firearms Instructor, I can tell you some training should be required. The basic safety fundamentals should be required at a minimum. Ive seen some real bad safety stuff in my classes that students didnt know or even think about. Kinda scary. Who likes being flagged or muzzled for the non vets. Who likes seeing fingers on the trigger when not on target? For those of you who think you should not have any training, sit in on a class or two, spend some time by a gun counter at your local gunstore, Gander Mtn, or Cabelas or talk to some NRA trainers you might be amazed at what you see. My off duty carry is a Gen 4 glock 19, in a crossbreed supertuck. My duty weapon is a Gen 4 Glock 17.
 
Those are the states that have it PASSED, not the ones that have legislation introduced. But its cool, right into a privledge. Criminals dont get permits, so I guess it just makes since to make it harder for people to protect themselves turning people into unarmed targets.

Yea and your point? Just because its in legislation doesnt mean anything, you think everything is leg gets passed? Hardly... if its not passed, its not passed. Like I said before currently only 4 states allow CC.

So you are saying criminals dont get a permit....what do you call this? http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...lony-convictions-keep-their-permit/?mobile=nc granted its only a few but it DOES happen.

A lot of states are open carry, its up to them if they want to arm themselves. A lot of states are open carry but you need a permit. Most folks are concerned about open carrry because of the possible issues it may cause, which are many.


Just so you know, a lot of folks do support the way the law is in most states mainly because of what Im trying to tell you here... such as:

“I think you should have to get a permit,” said registered Republican Craig Perry, 58, of Moseley. “I don’t think just anybody should be allowed to have a firearm. They should show safety, and show that they have responsibility to carry a weapon.”

http://www.wydaily.com/local-news/8140-delegate-wants-to-cut-concealed-carry-qred-tapeq.html

If you dont support proper training when owing a firearm, you sir need your head examined......
 
As an NRA Firearms Instructor, I can tell you some training should be required. The basic safety fundamentals should be required at a minimum. Ive seen some real bad safety stuff in my classes that students didnt know or even think about. Kinda scary. Who likes being flagged or muzzled for the non vets. Who likes seeing fingers on the trigger when not on target? For those of you who think you should not have any training, sit in on a class or two, spend some time by a gun counter at your local gunstore, Gander Mtn, or Cabelas or talk to some NRA trainers you might be amazed at what you see. My off duty carry is a Gen 4 glock 19, in a crossbreed supertuck. My duty weapon is a Gen 4 Glock 17.

I agree training is a good thing and every one should have it. I don't agree that someone requires me to do something. Helmet laws are another thing I can't stand. If some moron wants to ride his bike (adult) with out a helmet, then let him. Kids are different because then don't know better. I can't stand the government telling me I have to do something because it is good for me. Enough of that rant lol. If you like the government in your business live in California, they made a law so you can't smoke in your own house LOL. If you don't like the government in your business come to Arizona and cary legally and ride your bike without a helmet if you want. No one will tell you different.
 
I tend to agree with you here. At least have some range time with the gun first. One thing that does piss me off about the laws though is I am not allowed to carry on campus or even have the gun unloaded in a closed locked box in my car if it is parked on campus. I spend 90% of my work week at the University and I will not be able to have it. Very frustrating.

Do your vehicles get searched on campus or subject to search at any time? Did you sign anything for that? Ive never been on a campus so Im not sure..even if I wasnt allowed by the way of searches for whatever reason, I would still keep one in the glove compartment, its not going to be known unless you tell someone. There are way too many incidents on campuses that should make it legal for permit holders to carry on campus or atleast in their vehicles.

According to this site, there are 25 colleges that allow it now http://www.armedcampuses.org/ Not sure where you are at but Im assuming a college that doesnt allow it :)
 
As an NRA Firearms Instructor, I can tell you some training should be required. The basic safety fundamentals should be required at a minimum. Ive seen some real bad safety stuff in my classes that students didnt know or even think about. Kinda scary. Who likes being flagged or muzzled for the non vets. Who likes seeing fingers on the trigger when not on target? For those of you who think you should not have any training, sit in on a class or two, spend some time by a gun counter at your local gunstore, Gander Mtn, or Cabelas or talk to some NRA trainers you might be amazed at what you see. My off duty carry is a Gen 4 glock 19, in a crossbreed supertuck. My duty weapon is a Gen 4 Glock 17.

Very well put :)
 
I agree training is a good thing and every one should have it. I don't agree that someone requires me to do something. Helmet laws are another thing I can't stand. If some moron wants to ride his bike (adult) with out a helmet, then let him. Kids are different because then don't know better. I can't stand the government telling me I have to do something because it is good for me. Enough of that rant lol. If you like the government in your business live in California, they made a law so you can't smoke in your own house LOL. If you don't like the government in your business come to Arizona and cary legally and ride your bike without a helmet if you want. No one will tell you different.

I agree that the gov't should not interfere with your choices that do not harm others (like the helmet or seat-belt laws) but an accidental discharge or improper handling of a firearm has a high probability of seriously hurting or killing someone else. It is not like they require much- a simple class and a background check is all. Both things that after having gone through the process I can stand behind.
 
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