Any interest in LARGE allligator snappers?
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I'm not exactly sure why you would want to kill one, be that they take several decades to grow to a large size.
Why won't a common snapping turtle do?
Alligator Snapping turtles are not necessarily dangerous animals. They can be handled with relative ease by grasping them by the front of their carapace, above their head and the other hand directly 12 o'clock of this position. Their heads are too large to bite you. Note: Don't try this with a common snapping turtle.
Why won't a common snapping turtle do?
Alligator Snapping turtles are not necessarily dangerous animals. They can be handled with relative ease by grasping them by the front of their carapace, above their head and the other hand directly 12 o'clock of this position. Their heads are too large to bite you. Note: Don't try this with a common snapping turtle.
68A-27.005 Designation of Species of Special Concern; Prohibitions; Permits.
(1) The following species are hereby declared to be of special concern, and shall be afforded the protective
provisions specified.
(a) No person shall take, possess, transport, or sell any species of special concern included in this
paragraph or parts thereof or their nests or eggs except as authorized by Commission regulations
or by permit from the executive director or by statute or regulation of any other state agency,
permits being issued upon reasonable conclusion that the permitted activity will not be detrimental
to the survival potential of the species.
(b) The following species were listed prior to January 1, 2001, and have been further categorized by
the numbers in parentheses under the following criteria: (1) has a significant vulnerability to
habitat modification, environmental alteration, human disturbance, or human exploitation which,
in the foreseeable future, may result in its becoming a threatened species unless appropriate
protective or management techniques are initiated or maintained; (2) may already meet certain
criteria for designation as a threatened species but for which conclusive data are limited or
lacking; (3) may occupy such an unusually vital or essential ecological niche that should it decline
significantly in numbers or distribution other species would be adversely affected to a significant
degree; (4) has not sufficiently recovered from past population depletion, and (5) occurs as a
population either intentionally introduced or being experimentally managed to attain specific
objectives, and the species of special concern prohibitions in Rule 68A-27.002, F.A.C., shall not
apply to species so designated, provided that the intentional killing, attempting to kill, possession
or sale of such species is prohibited.
1. Atlantic sturgeon (Acipenser oxyrinchus) (1)
2. Lake Eustis pupfish (Cyprinodon variegatus hubbsi) (1)
3. Saltmarsh topminnow (Fundulus jenkinsi) (1)
4. Rivulus (Rivulus marmoratus) (1)
5. Southern tessellated darter (Etheostoma olmstedi maculaticeps) (1)
6. Harlequin darter (Etheostoma histrio) (1)
7. Shoal bass (Micropterus cataractae) (1, 2)
8. Suwannee bass (Micropterus notius) (1)
9. Key blenny (Starksia starcki) (1)
10. Gopher frog (Rana capito) (1, 2)
11. Pine Barrens treefrog (Hyla andersonii) (1)
12. Florida bog frog (Rana okaloosae) (2)
13. Georgia blind salamander (Haideotriton wallacei) (1, 2)
14. Alligator snapping turtle (Macroclemys temminckii) (1)
15. Suwannee cooter (Pseudemys concinna suwanniensis) (1, 2)
16. Barbour’s map turtle (Graptemys barbouri) (1, 2)
17. Gopher tortoise (Gopherus polyphemus) (1, 2, 3)
18. American alligator (Alligator mississippiensis) (1, 3)
19. Florida key mole skink (Eumeces egregius egregius) (1)
20. Red rat snake (Elaphe guttata) (lower keys population only) (1)
21. Brown pelican (Pelecanus occidentalis) (1)
22. Florida pine snake (Pituophis melanoleucus mugitus) (2)
23. Little blue heron (Egretta caerulea) (1, 4)
24. Osprey (Pandion haliaetus) (Monroe County population only) (1, 2)
25. Black skimmer (Rynchops niger) (1)
26. White ibis (Eudocimus albus) (2)
27. Snowy egret (Egretta thula) (1)
28. Reddish egret (Egretta rufescens) (1, 4)
29. Tricolored heron (Egretta tricolor) (1, 4)
30. Roseate spoonbill (Platalea ajaja) (1, 4)
31. Whooping crane (Grus americana) (5)
32. Limpkin (Aramus guarauna) (1)
33. American oystercatcher (Haematopus palliatus) (1, 2)
34. Burrowing owl (Athene cunicularia) (1)
35. Marian’s marsh wren (Cistothorus palustris marianae) (1)
36. Worthington’s marsh wren (Cistothorus palustris griseus) (1)
37. Scott’s seaside sparrow (Ammodramus maritimus peninsulae) (1)
38. Wakulla seaside sparrow (Ammodramus maritimus juncicolus) (1)
39. Sherman’s fox squirrel (Sciurus niger shermani) (1, 2)
40. Eastern chipmunk (Tamias striatus) (1)
41. Florida mouse (Podomys floridanus) (1)
42. Sherman’s short-tailed shrew (Blarina carolinesis [ = brevicauda] shermani) (2)
43. Homosassa shrew (Sorex longirostris eionis) (2)
44. Sanibel Island rice rat (Oryzomys palustris sanibeli) (1, 2)
45. Florida tree snail (Liguus fasciatus) (1)
46. Bluenose shiner (Pteronotropis welaka) (1, 2)
47. Black Creek crayfish (Procambarus pictus) (1)
48. Panama City crayfish (Procambarus econfinae) (1)
49. Sims Sink crayfish (Procambarus erythrops) (1)
(2) The following species, listed after January 1, 2001, are hereby declared to be of special concern, and
shall be afforded the protective provisions specified.
(a) Flatwoods salamander (Ambystoma cingulatum). No person shall directly take any flatwoods
salamander or parts thereof or their eggs except as authorized by Commission rule or by permit
from the executive director.
(b) Red-cockaded woodpecker (Picoides borealis). No person shall take, harass, possess, sell, or
transport any red-cockaded woodpecker or parts thereof or their eggs or their nests or dens except
as authorized by permit from the executive director. Permits will be issued based upon whether
issuance would further management plan goals and objectives.
Specific Authority Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const. Law Implemented Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const. History–New 8-1-79,
Amended 6-22-80, 6-21-82, 7-1-84, 7-1-85, Formerly 39-27.05, Amended 6-1-86, 5-10-87, 4-27-89, 10-22-92, 5-26-94,
6-23-99, Formerly 39-27.005, Amended 2-27-01, 5-1-01, 9-29-03.
(1) The following species are hereby declared to be of special concern, and shall be afforded the protective
provisions specified.
(a) No person shall take, possess, transport, or sell any species of special concern included in this
paragraph or parts thereof or their nests or eggs except as authorized by Commission regulations
or by permit from the executive director or by statute or regulation of any other state agency,
permits being issued upon reasonable conclusion that the permitted activity will not be detrimental
to the survival potential of the species.
(b) The following species were listed prior to January 1, 2001, and have been further categorized by
the numbers in parentheses under the following criteria: (1) has a significant vulnerability to
habitat modification, environmental alteration, human disturbance, or human exploitation which,
in the foreseeable future, may result in its becoming a threatened species unless appropriate
protective or management techniques are initiated or maintained; (2) may already meet certain
criteria for designation as a threatened species but for which conclusive data are limited or
lacking; (3) may occupy such an unusually vital or essential ecological niche that should it decline
significantly in numbers or distribution other species would be adversely affected to a significant
degree; (4) has not sufficiently recovered from past population depletion, and (5) occurs as a
population either intentionally introduced or being experimentally managed to attain specific
objectives, and the species of special concern prohibitions in Rule 68A-27.002, F.A.C., shall not
apply to species so designated, provided that the intentional killing, attempting to kill, possession
or sale of such species is prohibited.
1. Atlantic sturgeon (Acipenser oxyrinchus) (1)
2. Lake Eustis pupfish (Cyprinodon variegatus hubbsi) (1)
3. Saltmarsh topminnow (Fundulus jenkinsi) (1)
4. Rivulus (Rivulus marmoratus) (1)
5. Southern tessellated darter (Etheostoma olmstedi maculaticeps) (1)
6. Harlequin darter (Etheostoma histrio) (1)
7. Shoal bass (Micropterus cataractae) (1, 2)
8. Suwannee bass (Micropterus notius) (1)
9. Key blenny (Starksia starcki) (1)
10. Gopher frog (Rana capito) (1, 2)
11. Pine Barrens treefrog (Hyla andersonii) (1)
12. Florida bog frog (Rana okaloosae) (2)
13. Georgia blind salamander (Haideotriton wallacei) (1, 2)
14. Alligator snapping turtle (Macroclemys temminckii) (1)
15. Suwannee cooter (Pseudemys concinna suwanniensis) (1, 2)
16. Barbour’s map turtle (Graptemys barbouri) (1, 2)
17. Gopher tortoise (Gopherus polyphemus) (1, 2, 3)
18. American alligator (Alligator mississippiensis) (1, 3)
19. Florida key mole skink (Eumeces egregius egregius) (1)
20. Red rat snake (Elaphe guttata) (lower keys population only) (1)
21. Brown pelican (Pelecanus occidentalis) (1)
22. Florida pine snake (Pituophis melanoleucus mugitus) (2)
23. Little blue heron (Egretta caerulea) (1, 4)
24. Osprey (Pandion haliaetus) (Monroe County population only) (1, 2)
25. Black skimmer (Rynchops niger) (1)
26. White ibis (Eudocimus albus) (2)
27. Snowy egret (Egretta thula) (1)
28. Reddish egret (Egretta rufescens) (1, 4)
29. Tricolored heron (Egretta tricolor) (1, 4)
30. Roseate spoonbill (Platalea ajaja) (1, 4)
31. Whooping crane (Grus americana) (5)
32. Limpkin (Aramus guarauna) (1)
33. American oystercatcher (Haematopus palliatus) (1, 2)
34. Burrowing owl (Athene cunicularia) (1)
35. Marian’s marsh wren (Cistothorus palustris marianae) (1)
36. Worthington’s marsh wren (Cistothorus palustris griseus) (1)
37. Scott’s seaside sparrow (Ammodramus maritimus peninsulae) (1)
38. Wakulla seaside sparrow (Ammodramus maritimus juncicolus) (1)
39. Sherman’s fox squirrel (Sciurus niger shermani) (1, 2)
40. Eastern chipmunk (Tamias striatus) (1)
41. Florida mouse (Podomys floridanus) (1)
42. Sherman’s short-tailed shrew (Blarina carolinesis [ = brevicauda] shermani) (2)
43. Homosassa shrew (Sorex longirostris eionis) (2)
44. Sanibel Island rice rat (Oryzomys palustris sanibeli) (1, 2)
45. Florida tree snail (Liguus fasciatus) (1)
46. Bluenose shiner (Pteronotropis welaka) (1, 2)
47. Black Creek crayfish (Procambarus pictus) (1)
48. Panama City crayfish (Procambarus econfinae) (1)
49. Sims Sink crayfish (Procambarus erythrops) (1)
(2) The following species, listed after January 1, 2001, are hereby declared to be of special concern, and
shall be afforded the protective provisions specified.
(a) Flatwoods salamander (Ambystoma cingulatum). No person shall directly take any flatwoods
salamander or parts thereof or their eggs except as authorized by Commission rule or by permit
from the executive director.
(b) Red-cockaded woodpecker (Picoides borealis). No person shall take, harass, possess, sell, or
transport any red-cockaded woodpecker or parts thereof or their eggs or their nests or dens except
as authorized by permit from the executive director. Permits will be issued based upon whether
issuance would further management plan goals and objectives.
Specific Authority Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const. Law Implemented Art. IV, Sec. 9, Fla. Const. History–New 8-1-79,
Amended 6-22-80, 6-21-82, 7-1-84, 7-1-85, Formerly 39-27.05, Amended 6-1-86, 5-10-87, 4-27-89, 10-22-92, 5-26-94,
6-23-99, Formerly 39-27.005, Amended 2-27-01, 5-1-01, 9-29-03.
Im not sure how old the above is, but according to this years regs, the possession limit for alligator snappers is one. What I choose to do with an animal I legally harvest is my prerogative .
they must have just changed the law then cuse the last time I looked it was illegal to take and illegal to own in FL. Then again the only laws I look up that often are saltwater fishing ones, b/c I get them sent to me lol. I volunteer at a turtle research instute and they had to get a permit to keep them. Just be careful and make sure you get a freshwater license here b/c they are very very picky/stingy on that and will go through your stuff if they happen to see you.
Well then.....
Old enough to understand concepts of conservation, hold multiple degrees and understand that turtle hunters are a dying breed for a reason.
Simple put we have found more sustainable ways to harvest meat. Like farming domesticated species that mature in 6 months.
As a species, they might be on a decline, but so are 3/4 of the worlds population of turtles. They are considered a game animal by many states and both common and florida snapping turtles have a growth rate that dwarfs that of alligator snapping turtles.
You are right if that is your prerogative. And I'm not here to say that you are wrong. You are well within your legal rights to do. The point of posting their list of species of special concern was to make sure you understand why they are a species of special concern.
If you insist, please just make sure you harvest a male. (The larger gender) I'm not sure of all the permits involved to harvest one from an out of state resident but I do know that the waters where they occur are regularly checks by the FFWCC. Should you take a female, and she is carrying eggs, and you are found doing it, you may very well find yourself in a bad situation.
Also please realize that when you make a post stating that you will provide a protected species from a restricted state that people do see it and make notice of it.
Apparently you are not old enough to understand that I was referring how old the list you posted was.
Anyhow, I mis-understood the law and I believe I can harvest one alligator snapper for my self only and if I cant, I will get one of my family members who live in Florida to harvest it for me. I'm sorry if I have hurt your feelings. This thread has served its purpose, so mods can close before any one gets upset.
I will not do anything illegal so I will make sure I have the law interpreted before I go out!
Oh and here is a pic of one a fellow recently caught and ate from the area I will be.
Anyhow, I mis-understood the law and I believe I can harvest one alligator snapper for my self only and if I cant, I will get one of my family members who live in Florida to harvest it for me. I'm sorry if I have hurt your feelings. This thread has served its purpose, so mods can close before any one gets upset.
I will not do anything illegal so I will make sure I have the law interpreted before I go out!
Oh and here is a pic of one a fellow recently caught and ate from the area I will be.
It's ok. I will just assume that the accumulation of heavy metals in the turtles that you have consumed explains much of your behavior.
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