any one ever seen this???

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for the people that haven't seen the video i wouldn't bother, hideous looking fish.
 
As i have mentioned many times before 'Star4' on Fishforums has bred Convict x Rotkeil Severum....so it is possible to breed CA x SA.

I have yet to see well documented proof of it so I choose to be sceptical. Regardless if it is possible that doesn't mean other SA cichlids can successfully hybridize with CAs or even outside their genus.
 
Okay, just like to point out that regardless of whether Sev x Cons are real, the fact is that they belong to the same tribe - along with angelfish and discus.

Festaes shares a tribe with parrots, acaras, saums and the likes.

Also oscars are of a different tribe from the rest of the south americans.

So it is actually rather wonky when you look at it. :P
 
I have yet to see well documented proof of it so I choose to be sceptical. Regardless if it is possible that doesn't mean other SA cichlids can successfully hybridize with CAs or even outside their genus.

You keep saying that, but your to lazy to go and see it for yourself, i have seen the proof, the fish died after 6 months, she has the female Con and Male Rotkeil guarding the eggs pictures, and diff pictures of its life cycle, she is also the most respected member of that site, a woman with about 20 tanks in her hosue all full of cichlids.
 
Festaes shares a tribe with parrots, acaras, saums and the likes.

Festae are in the same tribe as a 'true parrot' (Hoplarchus psittacus). They are Heroines. But Acaras and saums , most definately not! Those belong to the tribe Cichasomatini. The group that aquarists generally refer to as Acaras.

A sev X con hybrid? I want to see real good eveidence of it, before i accept that it is possible.Though I have seen pics of a fish that was suposedely that, and did apear to pocess traits of both! Not so inconceivable that some kind of CA x sev cross is possible as they are part of the same tribe......but are distant enough to be considered to be of different clades with in the tribe Heroini. Eventually, probably just a matter of time before ichthyologists break up the tribe Heroini into more groupings. SA fish like sevs, discus, uaru, festivum,'trueparrots', chocalates, angelfish ect. are close to CA....but not that close. They use to consider a very large grouping of African cichlids as Haplochromines.......now they no longer even use this name and have split it up into numerous tribes. Some of which can hybirdize with species that are now considered of a different tribe.

As far as the fish in question........it's just a severely deformed oscar.
 
Video is also atleast 6 years old, i saw it on another forum back around 2006, and yeh its just a deformed Oscar, probably line bred deformed Oscar, same as i think Blood Parrots are simply line bred Midevals.

And again if you want proof, the proof is there on fishforums on the 'Sevict' the fish itself is dead now but it was real 1000%
 
Those are some messed up oscars ughh
On other note just cause 2 fish are guarding a nest doesent mean its there spawn. There have been many cases were other fish will protect another fishes eggs in a tank n also happens in the wild.
 
Video is also atleast 6 years old, i saw it on another forum back around 2006, and yeh its just a deformed Oscar, probably line bred deformed Oscar, same as i think Blood Parrots are simply line bred Midevals.

And again if you want proof, the proof is there on fishforums on the 'Sevict' the fish itself is dead now but it was real 1000%

I believe that the "sevict" is real but I'm thinking out was some sort of freak that managed to survive.

I can tell you blood patriots are 100% hybrids. They are synspilum(or whatever yhe name was changed to) x midas/devil. Its been proven by at least 2 members on this forum.

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Festae are in the same tribe as a 'true parrot' (Hoplarchus psittacus). They are Heroines. But Acaras and saums , most definately not! Those belong to the tribe Cichasomatini. The group that aquarists generally refer to as Acaras.

A sev X con hybrid? I want to see real good eveidence of it, before i accept that it is possible.Though I have seen pics of a fish that was suposedely that, and did apear to pocess traits of both! Not so inconceivable that some kind of CA x sev cross is possible as they are part of the same tribe......but are distant enough to be considered to be of different clades with in the tribe Heroini. Eventually, probably just a matter of time before ichthyologists break up the tribe Heroini into more groupings. SA fish like sevs, discus, uaru, festivum,'trueparrots', chocalates, angelfish ect. are close to CA....but not that close.

I'm sorry, but no. Neither the festaes or the 'true parrots' (nics) belong to the Heroini tribe. They belong to the Cichlasomatini tribe. They're more closely related to Acaras and Saums.
 
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