Egon;3747767; said:
Not the advertisement on the bottle, actual data like a test with a control population and so on.
I doubt it, lets wait and see.........
No one seems to have hard evidence "untreated water" is bad for the fish. I would love to see a side by side "taste test" or some other actual experiment. One tank with treated water only and one tank with untreated water (control) same fish, same temps, same food. Kinda like a consumer reports test.
Untreated water = potable water that comes out of the tap. I just don't understand how this can be bad for fish. I do understand the advertisement for the treated water would like people to believe the water is bad. There just making money..........anyway enough of that rant. To each his own I guess.
Wow never seen someone so proud of his ignorance. As for proof there is tons of proof about the affects of chloramine, chlorine, and ammonia on fish. 10 minutes actually researching it and you can find it. Here is just one link if you take the time to read it.
http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/criteria/library/redbook.pdf
or this.
http://weblife.org/humanure/chapter5_8.html
FYI the water out of the tap is far from untreated. For the most part it is required that it is treated... with chorine and or chloramine (which by the way will often break down to ammonia I guess you dont think ammonia is bad for fish either?). So this is not "natural" water coming from the stream. If it was then it would often be safe for fish, but since it is not that is why we must treat it to get rid of the affects of it being treated.
Just because it is safe for us to drink in no way indicates it is safe for fish to live in. In fact the primary problem with chloramine and chlorine with fish is it affects their gills and ability to breath. I dont know about you but personally I dont have gills.
Or take for example my tap water which is perfectly safe for me to drink. It also happens to be hard water with a high PH. Certainly not a healthy environment for discus for example. The fact is the water fish need for a healthy environment is often very different from the water we need to safely drink.
Or looking at it another way my fish tank water is very safe for my fish, but if I made a habit of drinking it then it could be very toxic to me. Fish and humans are very different and what is "safe" for one often is not for the other.
The fact that people may or may not have success not treating their water is far from "proof" that chlorine is not harmful. Concentrations and situations are different everywhere. It will depend on the fish, the water supply, and the tank (tanks with heavy bio-load are affected less). The one thing research is clear on though is chlorine and chloramines are harmful to fish. Depending on concentrations and the fish it may cause them stress... or it may kill them.
For the 10 dollars a year I spend on prime for a house full of fish tanks I have no idea why someone would want to subject their fish to toxic chemicals so they can buy a 6 pack of beer.
Look it's just an opinion. I live in the U.S. My family and I drink and cook with the same water I give my fish and other animals (cats, dogs). I believe the beer is also made with the same water LOL.
