Anyone who keeps rays can you please share some numbers?

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There was always talk of sludge buildup on bioballs it just seems to me that there would be even more buildup on scrubbies since they arent perfectly shaped/symetrical. They prob work great in a very well maintained, clean, understocked tank but sludge factory in an overstocked tank. Prob not your problem here but could be contributing




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This is also something i wonder about. Its not a problem here, but still. I have around 100 in my tap, 140 in my 1200 gallon, 108 in my 180 gallon AAAAND 70 in a corydoras tank i have. I have also always wondered how the tds in the tank could be lower then the tap, as there is fish pooping, feeding, eating going on.. Shouldnt that raise the TDS? (TOTAL disolved solvent). In my head, it should be raised by feeding.
 
vamptrev said:
There was always talk of sludge buildup on bioballs it just seems to me that there would be even more buildup on scrubbies since they arent perfectly shaped/symetrical. They prob work great in a very well maintained, clean, understocked tank but sludge factory in an overstocked tank. Prob not your problem here but could be contributing





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I can't see a 150 gallon tank with a 55 gallon sump as even close to overstocked with a 9" bala shark, 3 4" balas, a 6in ray and a 5in ray.

But I totally agree with you on thier potential for a sludge factory. Like I said mine turn hard as rocks, full of scale or clacium or something that makes them very very hard. Definetly not a good thing. They seem to hold the same stuff that I'm able to see on the bottom of my aging vats, the stuff I assume is the other half of the TDS reading I get, as the vats only have half the TDS the drip does.
 
Not sure what long term TDS will do to rays but I was just saying high TDS did not kill the one pup in a week cause if that was the case then the other two would be suffering as well. The pup could of had something wrong with it which made it weaker. I do not have a conductivity meter at home but when I got back to work next week I will check my 750, 200, tap, and drip system and hit you back with those numbers.

Did not realize pup tank had a simple filter since your whole basement is a filter I figured it was tied in some how (:
 
Tor-Eriik said:
This is also something i wonder about. Its not a problem here, but still. I have around 100 in my tap, 140 in my 1200 gallon, 108 in my 180 gallon AAAAND 70 in a corydoras tank i have. I have also always wondered how the tds in the tank could be lower then the tap, as there is fish pooping, feeding, eating going on.. Shouldnt that raise the TDS? (TOTAL disolved solvent). In my head, it should be raised by feeding.
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OR does it settle out? My scrubbies turn rock hard and it seems like the same stuff in the bottom of my aging vats that cut the TDS of the drip water in half. Maybe it's still in your system somewhere, just not in the water column?

No matter what my numbers are stupid high compared to those of you that have posted yours.

Will definetly be doing more testing tonight.
 
DIDYSIS said:
Because of the container and what it's a little more red and this is a little after feeding. But yes that's correct. And your point is??





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his point is that your nitrates are way to high for rays. period.

db, here are my numbers.
95-110 from tap
140-150 from filters 2 carbon and 1 sediment from filter bros
180 right after a 2hr water change through filters. this is on a 225 gal tank.

Ill check again in 2 days when i do another water change.
 
At the tap the tds is 420
In my water tub that heats water change water is 385
The tds in the tank is at 450


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take a look at you ph the tds would have alot to do with the buffering that your water can do over all. with the high tds i would guess the ph would be off from the two other systems because the ro/di has no buffering to it while the
tds in ray tanks 900
no2 0
no3 unreadable
discus tank tds 500
tap water 675
ro/di 00
put up as much info about the chemistry of the system as you can and lets see if something weird shows up.
think that maybe the best way to look for something off in the system
 
Aquascape Chicago said:
take a look at you ph the tds would have alot to do with the buffering that your water can do over all. with the high tds i would guess the ph would be off from the two other systems because the ro/di has no buffering to it while the
tds in ray tanks 900
no2 0
no3 unreadable
discus tank tds 500
tap water 675
ro/di 00
put up as much info about the chemistry of the system as you can and lets see if something weird shows up.
think that maybe the best way to look for something off in the system
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I don't have an accurate reliable way to monitor PH yet. Test kits ususally don't go high enough.

I don't have anything here but a typical test kit, copper test (0), and a TDS meter.

What else besides KH is important? ORP? Is there a way to monitor O2 content?

Thanks guys for the numbers!!!! Appreciate it.
 
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