Anything wrong with this pleco?

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Jackson;4775958; said:
Not all species respond the same way.

As you said a happy fish will also show stronger colours. I am not saying only substrates affect colour.

I too have a few hypostomus that I keep in tank with light colored substrate. It took them a long time to colour up. They are now what I would consider normal colour. But to say that the substrate won't affect any pleco is wrong. That's what I will not agree with.
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You don't have to agree, but you don't have to get mad over it, either.
 
mine goes all blotchy like that when ever i get the camera close
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drgnfrc13;4775957; said:
Getting upset, are we?


Yes I am aware of that. What I was saying, was that with P. senegalus in particular, the change is much more subtle than the change that occurs with EBJD's. This would not be true if I would have said the same for ornates, palmas, etc. but I was referring specifically to P. senegalus, from my own personal experience.

Anyway, it'd really be nice if you'd take a more pleasant tone... Honestly, what do you think you're going to achieve by making this a hostile arguement?
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It only seems hostile because you can not accept the fact that I won't agree with you. I can tell you don't like being told you are wrong. Well you are
 
Jackson;4775975; said:
It only seems hostile because you can not accept the fact that I won't agree with you. I can tell you don't like being told you are wrong. Well you are
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I'm pretty sure it seems hostile because you are using phrases like "Your argument is going nowhere" and "You are giving out faulty information." Those don't seem like the kind of phrases that someone in a civil conversation would be using. And since it is obviously a matter of opinion at this point, I don't understand how it's even possible to give out "faulty information"... and even if I did, would it really be the end of the world just because someone got a little confused about how a fish's color was effected by the substrate?
 
Does that bichir debate really matter? I think OP's question has been answered, the pleco is using natural defense-technique to break up it's body shape to colourblind preds. Bichirs don't matter to this at all.
 
I was going to comment, but this argument is nonsense. drgnfrc13, the last two pictures shows the pleco on a light colored rock or in plants, it doesn't show the color of the substrate, which would prove neither side of the argument. If anything, the first picture would prove jacksons side because the pleco is dark, and the background is dark.
 
L021;4776966; said:
Does that bichir debate really matter? I think OP's question has been answered, the pleco is using natural defense-technique to break up it's body shape to colourblind preds. Bichirs don't matter to this at all.
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No, it doesn't, but the OP seemed okay with it.

creepyoldguy;4776990; said:
I was going to comment, but this argument is nonsense. drgnfrc13, the last two pictures shows the pleco on a light colored rock or in plants, it doesn't show the color of the substrate, which would prove neither side of the argument. If anything, the first picture would prove jacksons side because the pleco is dark, and the background is dark.
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Yes, but if it is surrounded by one color, that is the color it is going to respond to (if it has a response), not just the substrate color, and the first pic proves that they can be very dark on a very white substrate, and IME, a blue background tends to bring out lighter, more vivid colors in fish, so I'm not sure I understand what you mean there.
 
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