Are Fly river turtles illigal now?

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Oddball said:
Not Malaysia. The last country that permitted live hatchling exports was Indonesia. Earlier this year, Indonesia followed Australia, Papua New Guinea, and Mainland China in banning all trade in live FRTs. Indonesia still allows egg nest harvesting for food markets. Any hatchings from egg collections are to be ignored if at the nest sites or the hatchlings hatched in transit remain in the food markets and are not permitted to be exported out of the country.
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Oddball, is a sale transaction from a person who already has one legal? (in the US)
 
Oddball said:
All countries where the FRT is native have banned all trade in live FRTs. All available hatchlings are illegal imports.

BTW, there are zero captive bred hatchlings available since there are zero captive breeders (except for an accidental zoo breeding resulting in 2 hatched eggs a decade ago).
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Good for them.
 
Yearling or older turtle sales from private owner to private owner is still legal in the US and Canada. As was the case before Indonesia closed the door, all FRTs in private ownership by end-use customers (retail buyers) are considered legal. Hatchling sales are still legal from retail owner to another retail buyer, but count on a knock on the door to ask you for your source. The current ban applies to businesses such as exporters, importers, and wholesalers.
 
if you really want to go by the CITES laws, there is not a single FRT in North America that is legal.
 
Not true. I bought my 4 before the FRT inclusion into CITES ($64.88/ea before CITES). My receipt makes me exempt from any legalities.

At any rate, CITES conventions and appendices do not, in any way, address possession of any animal contained in it's listings. CITES deals only with the International Trade (import/export) of listed species.

The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species
 
Oddball said:
Not true. I bought my 4 before the FRT inclusion into CITES ($64.88/ea before CITES). My receipt makes me exempt from any legalities.

At any rate, CITES conventions and appendices do not, in any way, address possession of any animal contained in it's listings. CITES deals only with the International Trade (import/export) of listed species.

The Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species
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how long ago did you buy the turtles?
 
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