every fish is in the hands of the beholder... watch you fish for atleast 10 mins and see how they interact with eachother, i watch mine everyday and deff see some sweet personilty
Are people taking this hobby to seriously?
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ok lets pretend here: if fish didnt have personilty, how would you know if it was sick? happy? mad? or hyper??
If people wanna take to the extreme n back that's their right to do so.a hobby is something you enjoy doing if I buy 100 tanks n fill everyone of em i must be enjoying it or it wouldn't happen.part of the fun of a hobby is the friendships of like minded people.its my bet that there's not 1 single person in this hobby against their will!we keep fish cause we like them, because of the enjoyment n peace they bring us.its the same from a 10year old kid n his first fish to the 50year old with the 10,000 gallon tank n expensive fish!keep it as simple as you want or push it to the next world if it makes you happy!!if its worth doing then its worth doing right!
I'm going to have to agree with Phillydog. Fish don't have personality, they have insincts which could be some form of personality...I guess. If you want to call it fishality then sure, but personality just will never work for me. That's just how I feel folks. Not going to change it. Bickering is sooo fun...noone wins.
Interesting on the fish personalities debate. If they have no personalities, why would one red devil love interacting with other fish while his brother would kill anything put in the tank? They should both have the same basic "instincts"?
But yes some have more "personality" than others.
But yes some have more "personality" than others.
irishfan;3923006; said:
As Packer43064 put it, "Fish have instinct." The basic instincts of fish are to procreate, eat and eat. If 2 fish of the same type have differing ways of accomplishing those goals, then isn't that just two differing means to the same end? They're not robots. They can do things differently, but it's the same end, just different means. Fish are not as intellectual as you might hope. Once again, fish can't have a personality. The root word of "personality" is "person," which is a human being. Animals are mainly driven by instinct to survive. The correct term should be "CHARACTER TRAITS." Animals do have character traits that are driven by those basic instincts. Here is a definition of CHARACTER: "The aggregate of features and traits that form the individual nature of some person or thing." I do not know what is in the DNA of one fish versus another. Why does one RED DEVIL act differently from his brother? I'm not sure anyone knows that, because we can't communicate with fish.
There seems to be two different discussions going on...
one seems to be dealing with the monetary/time extreme and the other seems to be dealing with the emotional attachment people place on their fish.
The first...monetary...what is extreme to one person may be insignificant to another, same goes for time spent on the hobby. Just because the amount someone else spends on their fish or tanks is more then you can or will spend on yours certainly doesn't make it extreme.
Also, since when is it somehow a gauge of your true fishkeeper status to keep the same fish from egg to old age? There are some people, I include myself in this group, that are relatively new to the type of fish most people on this site keep...if a fish seems interesting to me and I have the means to purchase and keep the fish, does that mean I'm somehow obligated to keep that fish for life? Don't be ridiculous. Sometimes I purchase a fish and return it to the store within a week...others I may keep for years, depends on the fish and has nothing to do with my commitment to the hobby. Again just because you are satisfied with 1 tank, 2 cichlids and the same plant for the next 15 years does not make you a more serious or commited hobbiest then the person that is still experimenting with what fish interest them.
As far as the whole fish vs dog vs child argument, again, it's relative to the individual. A person that does not have a dog or a child may attach the same level of emotional commitment to their fish that you do to your dog...or your child. Who are you or anyone else to tell a person what is acceptable for them to feel?
one seems to be dealing with the monetary/time extreme and the other seems to be dealing with the emotional attachment people place on their fish.
The first...monetary...what is extreme to one person may be insignificant to another, same goes for time spent on the hobby. Just because the amount someone else spends on their fish or tanks is more then you can or will spend on yours certainly doesn't make it extreme.
Also, since when is it somehow a gauge of your true fishkeeper status to keep the same fish from egg to old age? There are some people, I include myself in this group, that are relatively new to the type of fish most people on this site keep...if a fish seems interesting to me and I have the means to purchase and keep the fish, does that mean I'm somehow obligated to keep that fish for life? Don't be ridiculous. Sometimes I purchase a fish and return it to the store within a week...others I may keep for years, depends on the fish and has nothing to do with my commitment to the hobby. Again just because you are satisfied with 1 tank, 2 cichlids and the same plant for the next 15 years does not make you a more serious or commited hobbiest then the person that is still experimenting with what fish interest them.
As far as the whole fish vs dog vs child argument, again, it's relative to the individual. A person that does not have a dog or a child may attach the same level of emotional commitment to their fish that you do to your dog...or your child. Who are you or anyone else to tell a person what is acceptable for them to feel?
Norbert;3923143; said:
Humans are the greatest and most intellectually-sophisticated beings on this planet. I'm, without a doubt, unequivocally, stating that you can't compare a human life to that of a fish. it's not a contest, under no circumstance. I'm also stating that this type of thinking is not balanced. It's exactly what the OP was implying. Are we taking this hobby too seriously? Maybe so . . . If one thinks that a child and a fish can be on the same plane. I'm done . . . I feel like I'm beating a dead horse.
anything can be taken too far and to the Extreme.
fish keeping. .. sports. you name it.
Some people live, eat, breath Football. That's their deal.
I say if you want your hobby to become your LIFE.. Thats fine. Go ahead.
But if I or anyone else dont feel the same way about it. Dont you dare judge us for it.
fish keeping. .. sports. you name it.
Some people live, eat, breath Football. That's their deal.
I say if you want your hobby to become your LIFE.. Thats fine. Go ahead.
But if I or anyone else dont feel the same way about it. Dont you dare judge us for it.
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