Your experience is lacking to me and so is your knowledge.
You start a huge debate that could have been simply avoided if you just answered the very first question I asked you.
What are you exactly trying to say? I don't think you have any understanding of what were talking about. Are you saying that fish is a stunner of two genetically underlined parents? Posting a picture and saying "so this is low grade?!" has no relevance what so ever. Post pics of the parents if that's what you implying? Its like your going to court and you have no argument but only the wanted outcome. Please read, makes all our lives a bit easier.
You ignore what I asked so I guessed what you were tying to say and now we just had this debate.
In this debate you are wrong at several places and you say my knowledge is incorrect, yet the only thing you could say I was wrong about is grandparents genes here;
You REALLY need to go back to college!
Does grandparents' gene.... Great grandparents' gene ring anything to you?!!! Or you just want to talk big about your genetics class in college.
I know what I said, and a few guys with an actual knowledge about FH breeding would know that fine! NOT you unfortunately..... So good luck with your genetics education that says gene is only passed through the father and mother....
Well I already explained that the mothers and fathers genes hold the grand parents genes correct? So half mothers and half fathers genes hold past generation's gene without saying. And you tell me to go back to college...
Here is where you told me I was wrong.
Genes are basically instructions inherited from the parents. Half the fathers and half the mothers
First thing I was told in my very first genetics lecture is that all muticelluar creatures have been given a blueprint which are the genes that decides length, color, regulatory functions, and the final disposition.
You see past the point that genetics gets passed down yet you try to call me out on it. That is the only flaw you could point out. The blueprint goes without saying that it holds pasts generations.
You keep saying that you have been here for 7 years yet you have no proof and from your posts I have decided your word is just a grain of salt. You talk big like here
No I don't, because that was in response to your comment..... I asked you something, and you couldn't ANSWER it. Instead you started defending your classroom genetics knowledge!
When the parents are low quality, but there may be good quality genes in the gene pool, there is a chance however slim, that some fry will turn good quality. For that you need to see signs/ hints of the recessive desirable gene traits in those small percentage of fries. And when that chance is a matter of shelling out $4 compared to $100 plus, we experienced hobbyists take that chance!... And with experience we do pick up stunners for as little as a few dollars.
Now answer my first question to you..... If you can, that is!
But have NO proof what so ever. I have proven myself and you cannot.
Your reading comprehension is very poor as my first post stated
The price for the flowerhorns I bought were actually a pretty good deal. From members on here they rated the first two at a mid/high grade which is a 5-7 on a scale of 10 and the last one a 8-9 out of ten. At two inches the are guarentee to be stunners. You can tell the difference as the pictures of the fry you are to buy, those at the very best are going to be a 3 out of 10 looking at the parents.
No kok, washed out colors, weird body shape, and the fins look more of a parrot fish, heres a sticky about the grading.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/f...-Before-Asking-About-the-Quality-Grade-Rating
At 4 inches my rd would have easily sold for 300+ for the right buyer that was to breed. From my experience the genetics has to be with the parents or else there's no shot in having any high quality fry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmal_mR-Gtk
This is one of the breeders I have good relations and he once told me starting with a good quality parents will yield about 1/3rd or near 1/2 quality fry ready to sell at the prices I bought them at and
starting with low quality fh's will yield low quality fh's at an abundant amount with very minimal chance of any sorts of a stunner. By the looks the genetics just aren't there for any stunners.
But I totally agree about taking a shot in the dark as why would I play the lotto every week haha.
Then you say this which even blows my mind but I have learned you dont read.
The point was simple.... But most probably you won't get it!
You told the OP some of your half baked knowledge of genetics and I showed a pic to show that you probably have nothing to show to validate your point!
Listen pal..... you need to grow up and start giving advices when you have actual 'knowledge'...... You mentioned that if the parents are not good quality then there is NO WAY the offspring can be good quality..... That's very very wrong. Because even if there are 99% chance of the offspring being not good quality, still 1% probability is that the past generations' good genes may get passed on to the offspring from parents (which didn't show the good quality, but definitely carried the genes)! CLEAR?!
Do you have clue now?..... If you don't, please do whatever, but don't advice about genetics!
Where in this whole dam thread did I say this?
The point was simple.... But most probably you won't get it!
You told the OP some of your half baked knowledge of genetics and I showed a pic to show that you probably have nothing to show to validate your point!
Listen pal..... you need to grow up and start giving advices when you have actual 'knowledge'...... You mentioned that if the parents are not good quality then there is NO WAY the offspring can be good quality..... That's very very wrong. Because even if there are 99% chance of the offspring being not good quality, still 1% probability is that the past generations' good
The my very first post said what?
starting with low quality fh's will yield low quality fh's at an abundant amount with very minimal chance of any sorts of a stunner. By the looks the genetics just aren't there for any stunners.
But I totally agree about taking a shot in the dark as why would I play the lotto every week haha.
Very first post you replied to. Do you see you don't read? Go look at the posts, none of them are edited.
You have proved nothing to me yet you constantly tell me I state outrageous claims by me I have never made. You constantly try to correct me yet you are wrong. You constantly state you are an experienced fish keeper that does this often yet have
no proof what so ever.
To me you are just a troll on the internet and I'm sure others will agree. You tell me what I said even though I never said what you stated, and also making claims you cannot prove. You truly are a waste of my time, there's no debating with you as its worse than trying to have a conversation with a poodle. I hope this thread stays open so members can see your lies about what I have said and the lack of knowledge you have.
Good day troll, this debate is over.
