Are you doing it right? GRENADE :-))

[keepinfish]

Awesome to see your back DW, your knowledge is greatly appreciated!

Very good read, i am thinking of lowering my temps now. i am usually around 82-86ish.


medication, i leared from you a couple of years ago that you do not want to treat unless you know what is wrong and that you are treating something specific, just guessing or fixing something that is not broken is crazy.

 

[aquaman45]

Quality info there Dave W,nice to see people appreciate your obvious wealth of knowledge too.....great read,...really was.

 

[nitrofish1]

this info will prolly change how we diagnose rays alot

 

[tan]

Great article, but I am not convinced about day/nigh temperature set up. I understand that David try to adapt the captive enviroment as close as in natural enviroment. But the natural enviroment (temperature swing from day to night) may not be the OPTIMAL condition for the ray, but the ray has no control over it. However we have control over it for our tank. We may never know what is the optimal temperature is, we only use it's natural enviroment as the guide line. I believe in keeping temperature constant as much as possible to reduce stress.
I live in the desert and the temperature changes drastically from day to night. I can tolerate it, but it does not mean I like it. That is why we have the air conditioner on all the time.
Fot the sake of arguement, if some aliens from other planet scoop down to earth and capture a couple eskimo people over who live on the north pole, bring them back to their planet and assuming that the best way to keep the Eskimo people happy is to try to duplicate the icy cold environment, assuming that it would be the best for them. The aliens will be wrong in their assumption too.
Anyway, that is my 2 cent. please do not flame me for my opinion. I have no intention in putting any one down or make fun of anyone's idea. I may be dead wrong too. Who know? May be the eskimo people love to live in the icy cold are, but definitely not me!
Cheers,

 

[michael]

Like said great to see you here with imput again David. I always thought the same thing about temps. To replicate the wild, it is just natural that temps drop at night. I always thought of having one of my heaters turn off around 9 at night and turn on again at 4 or 5. that amount of time wih a larger amount of "home aquaria" water will probably just drop a few degrees anyway. As for meds i hte them, although I did have great luck with binos on a fresh import with a bacteria/skin infection. Again glad to see you posting and hope you continue to

 

[ShadowStryder]

Great article, but I am not convinced about day/nigh temperature set up. I understand that David try to adapt the captive enviroment as close as in natural enviroment. But the natural enviroment (temperature swing from day to night) may not be the OPTIMAL condition for the ray, but the ray has no control over it. However we have control over it for our tank. We may never know what is the optimal temperature is, we only use it's natural enviroment as the guide line. I believe in keeping temperature constant as much as possible to reduce stress.
I live in the desert and the temperature changes drastically from day to night. I can tolerate it, but it does not mean I like it. That is why we have the air conditioner on all the time.
Fot the sake of arguement, if some aliens from other planet scoop down to earth and capture a couple eskimo people over who live on the north pole, bring them back to their planet and assuming that the best way to keep the Eskimo people happy is to try to duplicate the icy cold environment, assuming that it would be the best for them. The aliens will be wrong in their assumption too.
Anyway, that is my 2 cent. please do not flame me for my opinion. I have no intention in putting any one down or make fun of anyone's idea. I may be dead wrong too. Who know? May be the eskimo people love to live in the icy cold are, but definitely not me!
Cheers,

This is not correct. Humans adapt/evolve just like animals. The Inuit people from the Northern Alaskan
and Arctic environment have adapted. Their hands and feet have evolved/developed more blood
vessels so that the blood flows better in their extremities.
Therefore allowing them to stay warmer without all the extra gloves or sock/boots.
Knowing this, being in a warmer environment would be harder for them to
tolerate.

By the way, great read David W!

 

[nitrofish1]

keep it on topic here..... i could see how the temps changing would work out, but maybe just keeping a constant middle temperature is sufficient as well? 76-78F? idk how these ppl can keep their tanks in the 84's or so and even up to 100's, i have mine up all the way and i cant even get it up to 80....

 

[bigspizz]

Evolving and adapting are two different things....See "FW" bumble bee groupers. They adapt to fresh, as apposed to evolve.


Great info though, just thought I would point that out.

 

[hbluehunter]

Does anyone think putting a timer on a heater where it turns off at night and turns on in the morning would put too much stress on the heater and burn it out quicker than just leaving it on all the time ??? Thinking of trying this to try the day and night temp changes.

 

[bigspizz]

Does anyone think putting a timer on a heater where it turns off at night and turns on in the morning would put too much stress on the heater and burn it out quicker than just leaving it on all the time ??? Thinking of trying this to try the day and night temp changes.

I think the time off coupled with the temp loss, would be a wash. Essentially, it would be the same as running it at all times. Assuming your room ambient temp does not fluctuate more than 10 degrees +/- per day.