Argentea acting strange (with vid)

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May not be stress, as in something in your tank. I had a phone conversation with Dan at CoA about disease, and there's a lot more to it than "my fish is sick--what did I do wrong".

It could take weeks for a pathogen in a new fish to present symptoms.

Maybe fish A comes in with a Protozoa, no symptoms, but passes it along to fish B who becomes symptomatic overnight.

I've brought in new fish every 2-3 weeks for a couple months now trying to stock a tank. Maybe you did, too?

Any wild caught fish? I have 3, who knows what they have?

You do any dips or preventive treatment of new fish--cause I don't. I drop em in my tank, once I see em eat, I call it good.

My tank's sick, and looking back I can see why. But, I couldn't see how I was courting it 3 months ago.

Not saying you have a sick fish, just saying--for me--I had to live it to understand it. And I still don't REALLY understand disease in a tank.

But I know this--a fish turns shy suddenly, quits eating, drops a stringy white deuce--get some Metro, Epsom salt, syringe, and 2 inches of soft tubing :)


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I understand what you mean but no new fish. The newest is a gold nuggesy pleco but that was about 2 months ago and i quarantined it and treated with parasite gaurd.
I dont wanna mess with the ph butnit is pretty low. I have been messing around with the tank though. Adding dw then removing it (to soak out tannins) then adding it back. Changed the lighting, adding plants. Also hes only in this tank for maybe a month or so, moved from a 55 gal. Maybe too many changes

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About pH....mine has always been "a little too high" at 7.4-7.8.

I've resisted the temptation to bump it down a little.

pH is a very general measure of water chemistry. It's a lot more complicated than that. Look into it, read and learn about it before you throw something in to alter pH.

And then explain it all to me. Cause I can't make much sense of it from what I've read.


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Lmao ive tried ...kh matters and all that good stuff. Duanes kind of thinks its ok so maybe i should lnt change anything until i explore all other options. Just wierd that a fish that was never skittish all of a sudden is.

I wonder what the long term affects are in keeping a fish like argentea in lower ph ranges

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Dude, long term effects, no telling. He's in a tank with other fish? What kind?

How's his fins look? Nipped? Any rot maybe?

I've just seen 6 fish go skittish like that at my house. I was "lucky" cause they all had Hex, which is well documented and treatable. But it caused other problems, and was very confusing cause Id never seen ANY fish disease before.




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Hes in with 6 tiger barbs and a gold nugget pleco. He ate two big peoces of krill today... not fin rot or anything other than looking a lil washed out

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He ate some peas and oo pellets last night. Another pea or two this morning. Will not feed for a couple of days then do a round of epsom soaked pellets. Im reluctant to mess with my ph yet. Could it have been adding the dw's and plants at the same time was too much for the system and lowered ph. Added jf, anubis, and some java moss. Maybe i should remove all plants except the anubis, one of the dw's and add a clay pot for him to use ?

Ph of his tank this morning
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Ph of my tap. Maybe 6.. to 7.0 ?
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Ph of my 150 gal. Maybe 6.6 to 6.8 ?
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Im thinking if there is not change after removing some plants and dw if i could raise the ph with the coral to near my tap then it wont cause fluctuations after large wc's

Looks washed out in the vd.
https://youtu.be/lcK_Y1Y1qMw


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Still doesnt look as good (colorstion) but acting better. Atr peas and a few kelp pellets again. Gonna monitor thw ph over the next couple of days. I suspect one of thw dw may be the culprit.
We'll see

https://youtu.be/VwER580jbbc



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Seems to be acting like himself again i removed a dw that kept clouding the tank
Maybe it was releasing too much tannins and messing with the ph ? Ph went up a lilttle but not much may still add a handfrul of crushed coral to the filter.
https://youtu.be/ozqrMO5c74o

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I've done a bit of research on the Usumacinta river, and Lake Lachua, areas where argentea are found
http://search.tb.ask.com/search/red...S/zw77CNBIvmdyn/sAmtGiqkwgqbpRKrqfZw==&ord=2&
the article above was one of the best resources for water parameters, biological diversity, and general habitat.
pH values range from 8.0 to 8.5
That said, since your argentea has adapted to your water, I believe it is more important to use the water you have, and keep water quality high, with water changes, than try to mess with pH.
Adding crushed coral would be a very gentle way to add mineral content, but using chemical additives (at least to me) would be counterproductive.
My pH usually hovers in the 7.5 to 7.8 range, and argentea (and others from that region) have spawned in my tanks, these fish are extremely flexible as far as requirements go, because water parameters are constantly changing especially in riverine areas.
In all videos, yours looks healthy and active to me
 
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