Armatus everywhere!

[mad ness]

Yes to both and it is interesting that there is another scomb variant/strain.I wonder if they live any longer in captivity than the other type.

* sorry off topic

Im pretty convinced this phenomenon has to do with the fish's flight response. Larger they get, less space they have, and with size more power. they bash themselves and die from it. this has happened with 7 of 11 tats i have.

Saw 3 do it in person. (Set off by room lights turned on/off unexpectedly or increase in airbubbler pressure then day lights off - i hear splash/impact on glass) day one - fish is disorientated/dizzy, day two - visible damage shows, busted nose/teeth, clouded eyes, flared fins, damaged skin (whatever came in contact to obstructive objects), day 3 - summer saults hard breathing, paralysis, then death. takes about 2-3 days to die, like clockwork. 7" tats.

scombs are 7-8" and have not commited suicide but they do have this flight response. i scared one once with top off cleaning and it shot clear out of the tank and landed 6ft away on the couch, luckily.

VATF bash themselves but are not as fragile. GATF are much calmer but comparison.

have yet to see with armatus.

 

[krichardson]

What I meant with the yellow scombs was the reputation of not living past the length of twelve inches that the common scombs have.Whats the titles of your books?

 

[M.Carfi]

You've got to have a "little" startup procedure here so you don't freak em'.

I have an ambient room light, very low wattage on a timer start @ 8:00 at night, then I have 4 separate lights/ balist on top of the tank all on timers that are set to half hour apart and then they shut down half hour at a time starting at 5:30 the next morning until the ambient light finally shuts off at 8:00 in the morning to simulate the sun, so day and night are switched. The basement is pitch black during the day.

I have a 10" Brevis, a 10" tat and a 10" Bala shark in there for 2 years like this, never lost any fish. Believe it or not, the sketchiest one in there is the Bala shark, that things afraid of it's own shadow.

Should cost you under 30$ to set this up and will definately combat flightiness.

 

[mad ness]

What I meant with the yellow scombs was the reputation of not living past the length of twelve inches that the common scombs have.Whats the titles of your books?

i cant read them, just look at the photos which have max length and scientific names. The taiwanese one has 2100 in title, and japanese one has 2700 in title. the figure represents number of photos.

oh!... i didnt even know there was 2 kinds of scombs. I was thinking the one on ciclid station and the scomb we all know are the same, that there is no diff between common and yellow scomb.

 

[mad ness]

You've got to have a "little" startup procedure here so you don't freak em'.

I have an ambient room light, very low wattage on a timer start @ 8:00 at night, then I have 4 separate lights/ balist on top of the tank all on timers that are set to half hour apart and then they shut down half hour at a time starting at 5:30 the next morning until the ambient light finally shuts off at 8:00 in the morning to simulate the sun, so day and night are switched. The basement is pitch black during the day.

I have a 10" Brevis, a 10" tat and a 10" Bala shark in there for 2 years like this, never lost any fish. Believe it or not, the sketchiest one in there is the Bala shark, that things afraid of it's own shadow.

Should cost you under 30$ to set this up and will definately combat flightiness.

you know what... that's a brilliant idea. will incorporate this into my new tank which for the most part will use natural sunlight. But even then I'll have lights for night time viewing so same risk still applies. where do you place the ambient light? My guess a room light should suffice timed to turn off right around sunrise?

 

[M.Carfi]

Exactly, I have it on the other side of the room. Very low wattage in a lamp, like 25 to 30 watt bulb should do.

 

[channarox]

i would personally just get them used to bright lights when theyre small.

 

[krichardson]

oh!... i didnt even know there was 2 kinds of scombs. I was thinking the one on ciclid station and the scomb we all know are the same, that there is no diff between common and yellow scomb.

You may be correct but since I have never heard of this gold fin type and the more commonly sold scombs dont have these colors,I just assumed that there were two types.

 

[krichardson]

oh!... i didnt even know there was 2 kinds of scombs. I was thinking the one on ciclid station and the scomb we all know are the same, that there is no diff between common and yellow scomb.

You may be correct but since I have never seen or heard of this yellow fin type and the more commonly sold scombs dont have fins of this color I just assumed that there wre more than one species.

 

[mad ness]

i would personally just get them used to bright lights when theyre small.

they're fine with bright lights, its when they turn off that spooks them. good thing about halides is they gradually get brighter