Aro in unestablished tank??

[smartlove_518]

i have never cycled my tanks too..i put in my 2 new arows in a new tank.but i did use an established filter.i dont have the patience to wait and watch and empty tank for 3 weeks. and yes i have never lost any fish too

 

[smartlove_518]

i have heard people adding small amount of flake food for the bacteria growth but never heard of rotting prawns. the smell would just be unbearable man.
hey dubaipond i would love to see your flame proof suit. lol

 

[xboroinc]

he will b fine all my aro'z have gone threw the same thing being randomly purches'd and i drop them in a new tank, just use some established tank water and filter media and u will b fine

 

[Big_D_Breezy]

he will b fine all my aro'z have gone threw the same thing being randomly purches'd and i drop them in a new tank, just use some established tank water and filter media and u will b fine

That's what I planned on doing, I just wanted to see if anyone else had experience with this before I plunged a 63$ fish into something that could possibly damage it lol

 

[aldiaz33]

Hi,
I've read through the thread you linked to, and whilst I'm certainly no expert on these things, wouldn't rotting prawns pollute the water? If a bad prawn can (and has) put me in bed for 5 days, surely the same $hit floating in the water is going to make the Arow ill? I'd rather use fresh clean water and run the gauntlet of ammonia in the water than put my fish in "food poisoning soup".

I'm sorry to hear about your food poisoning.

In regards to using prawn to cycle a tank, with all due respect you don't know what you're talking about, but you already mentioned that you weren't an expert so I can't fault you there.

The rotting prawn "polluting" the water is the whole point.

The rotting prawn produces ammonia that beneficial bacteria (Nitrosomas) feeds on. The bacteria needs the ammonia in order to colonize your filters. The nitrosomas feed on the ammonia and break it down into Nitrite which is in turn broken down into Nitrate (which is much less toxic than Ammonia or Nitrite). Using prawn is a way to cycle your tank without using live fish. You use the prawn to raise the ammonia levels...that's the point. As you read in my thread I did a huge water change prior to adding the arowana to bring the ammonia levels down to 0. The water parameters were perfect when I "chucked" him into the tank.

If you just "chuck" your fish into a brand new tank, then you probably have no idea what the nitrification cycle is, so your advice to the OP is worthless. If you throw a fish into a brand new tank, you are the one who is putting your fish in "food poisoning soup" since you will definitely have an ammonia spike. Just because you have not lost a fish to this, does not mean that your fish have not been negatively effected by living in water with elevated ammonia levels.

Ammonia is toxic to fish. If you put fish in a tank that hasn't cycled, the fish will produce ammonia and there will be no biological bacteria present to break it down into less harmful nitrogen compounds. The rotting stuff that your fish produces will be doing the same thing as the prawn that I added to my EMPTY tank.

Do some research on cycling and you'll understand. You can search this forum or you can find tons of articles by doing a google search on fishless cycle, or aquarium cycle.

Smartlove_518 - You are right. The smell was pretty bad, but the tank was in my garage so I didn't really care. I don't think I'll use prawn again. I'll use pure ammonia next time. Cycling a tank is pretty basic. Everyone who keeps fish should know how to do and have the patience to do it.

Thanks.

 

[Hao]

iv done it before but check the water before

 

[smartlove_518]

I'm sorry to hear about your food poisoning.

In regards to using prawn to cycle a tank, with all due respect you don't know what you're talking about, but you already mentioned that you weren't an expert so I can't fault you there.

The rotting prawn "polluting" the water is the whole point.

The rotting prawn produces ammonia that beneficial bacteria (Nitrosomas) feeds on. The bacteria needs the ammonia in order to colonize your filters. The nitrosomas feed on the ammonia and break it down into Nitrite which is in turn broken down into Nitrate (which is much less toxic than Ammonia or Nitrite). Using prawn is a way to cycle your tank without using live fish. You use the prawn to raise the ammonia levels...that's the point. As you read in my thread I did a huge water change prior to adding the arowana to bring the ammonia levels down to 0. The water parameters were perfect when I "chucked" him into the tank.

If you just "chuck" your fish into a brand new tank, then you probably have no idea what the nitrification cycle is, so your advice to the OP is worthless. If you throw a fish into a brand new tank, you are the one who is putting your fish in "food poisoning soup" since you will definitely have an ammonia spike. Just because you have not lost a fish to this, does not mean that your fish have not been negatively effected by living in water with elevated ammonia levels.

Ammonia is toxic to fish. If you put fish in a tank that hasn't cycled, the fish will produce ammonia and there will be no biological bacteria present to break it down into less harmful nitrogen compounds. The rotting stuff that your fish produces will be doing the same thing as the prawn that I added to my EMPTY tank.

Do some research on cycling and you'll understand. You can search this forum or you can find tons of articles by doing a google search on fishless cycle, or aquarium cycle.

Smartlove_518 - You are right. The smell was pretty bad, but the tank was in my garage so I didn't really care. I don't think I'll use prawn again. I'll use pure ammonia next time. Cycling a tank is pretty basic. Everyone who keeps fish should know how to do and have the patience to do it.

Thanks.

you are right about cycling. but i always have heard people using flake food. and as i said i always use an established filter and water from an established tank. so that jump starts my cycling process. but i make sure that i do water changes everyday for the next 3-4days and then slowly increase the number of days and end with water change every week.thats how i do it. others might be using a different method.

 

[Bderick67]

On a scale of 1 to 10, I will say 10. It seems that you have already done it anyway so maybe you'll be lucky. Hopefully you won't have to post as to why your young arowana "mysteriously" died

Hi,
I've read through the thread you linked to, and whilst I'm certainly no expert on these things, wouldn't rotting prawns pollute the water? If a bad prawn can (and has) put me in bed for 5 days, surely the same $hit floating in the water is going to make the Arow ill? I'd rather use fresh clean water and run the gauntlet of ammonia in the water than put my fish in "food poisoning soup".

So have you tried ingesting ammonia? Seems to me if your gonna make the comparison of eating shrimp as to shrimp in the tank, complete results can only be obtained by you drinking some ammonia.

Let us know how that goes for ya. Interesting method, selective pollution control in the aquarium

 

[aldiaz33]

On a scale of 1 to 10, I will say 10. It seems that you have already done it anyway so maybe you'll be lucky. Hopefully you won't have to post as to why your young arowana "mysteriously" died



So have you tried ingesting ammonia? Seems to me if your gonna make the comparison of eating shrimp as to shrimp in the tank, complete results can only be obtained by you drinking some ammonia.

Let us know how that goes for ya. Interesting method, selective pollution control in the aquarium

Well put Bderick67.

 

[DubaiPond]

I'm sorry to hear about your food poisoning.

In regards to using prawn to cycle a tank, with all due respect you don't know what you're talking about, but you already mentioned that you weren't an expert so I can't fault you there.

The rotting prawn "polluting" the water is the whole point.

The rotting prawn produces ammonia that beneficial bacteria (Nitrosomas) feeds on. The bacteria needs the ammonia in order to colonize your filters. The nitrosomas feed on the ammonia and break it down into Nitrite which is in turn broken down into Nitrate (which is much less toxic than Ammonia or Nitrite). Using prawn is a way to cycle your tank without using live fish. You use the prawn to raise the ammonia levels...that's the point. As you read in my thread I did a huge water change prior to adding the arowana to bring the ammonia levels down to 0. The water parameters were perfect when I "chucked" him into the tank.

If you just "chuck" your fish into a brand new tank, then you probably have no idea what the nitrification cycle is, so your advice to the OP is worthless. If you throw a fish into a brand new tank, you are the one who is putting your fish in "food poisoning soup" since you will definitely have an ammonia spike. Just because you have not lost a fish to this, does not mean that your fish have not been negatively effected by living in water with elevated ammonia levels.

Ammonia is toxic to fish. If you put fish in a tank that hasn't cycled, the fish will produce ammonia and there will be no biological bacteria present to break it down into less harmful nitrogen compounds. The rotting stuff that your fish produces will be doing the same thing as the prawn that I added to my EMPTY tank.

Do some research on cycling and you'll understand. You can search this forum or you can find tons of articles by doing a google search on fishless cycle, or aquarium cycle.

Smartlove_518 - You are right. The smell was pretty bad, but the tank was in my garage so I didn't really care. I don't think I'll use prawn again. I'll use pure ammonia next time. Cycling a tank is pretty basic. Everyone who keeps fish should know how to do and have the patience to do it.

Thanks.

I understand the theory of cycling a tank, the nitrogen cycle etc but my experiences have taught me that putting a fish into a freshly set up tank is not the end of the world. If a seasoned filter is available I'll use it but if not I don;t. I don;t agree that my answer to the OP was worthless. He asked a question which I answered based on my experience, I believe I'm allowed to do that?

If the water of a tank with rotten prawns in smells bad, there is more than just ammonia in there. You're saying that none of that other stuff has any negative effect on the fish?

I'll just pop downs stairs and tell me fish they should all be dead by now. Thanks for the heads up.