Aro in unestablished tank??

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Bderick67;3028649; said:
On a scale of 1 to 10, I will say 10. It seems that you have already done it anyway so maybe you'll be lucky. Hopefully you won't have to post as to why your young arowana "mysteriously" died



So have you tried ingesting ammonia? Seems to me if your gonna make the comparison of eating shrimp as to shrimp in the tank, complete results can only be obtained by you drinking some ammonia.

Let us know how that goes for ya. Interesting method, selective pollution control in the aquarium:screwy:

Perhaps i should learn to breathe underwater too to get the full experience :screwy::screwy:
 
I would still rather cycle the tank with the ol' way. Putting small fishes to test the water and to cycle the tank as well.
 
DubaiPond;3029332; said:
Perhaps i should learn to breathe underwater too to get the full experience :screwy::screwy:

Yes, good idea. Start by keeping you head under water for ten minutes, make sure you don't surface.

Let us know how this goes for ya:D
 
WOW! We are on Monsterfishkeepers.com right ? People are f**cking saying you don't need to cycle a tank before adding fish? OK there are many ways to cycle a tank and ways to speed it up and we should be talking about that here. But if you are adding $150.00 fish to a tank that's been set up for a day or two you need to go back and talk to the guy at Walmart. " just let the bag float for 15 min and they'll be good to go."
 
smokingray;3030756; said:
WOW! We are on Monsterfishkeepers.com right ? People are f**cking saying you don't need to cycle a tank before adding fish? OK there are many ways to cycle a tank and ways to speed it up and we should be talking about that here. But if you are adding $150.00 fish to a tank that's been set up for a day or two you need to go back and talk to the guy at Walmart. " just let the bag float for 15 min and they'll be good to go."

Yes it is hard to believe. Bad enough that we have the uneducated practicing this, but to preach this to others is ludacris:nilly:
 
smokingray & Bderick67 have it right.

It's one thing to speak of one's personal experience and survival rates for doing it the wrong way, but if you're suggesting to a newbie that it's ok to just chuck a fish into a brand new (uncycled) tank, well that's just horrible advice.

To say that you are pleased to see that others also don't cycle their tanks is pretty sad. Why would you be pleased to know that there are others who have it all wrong?

Reality has singed your flame proof suit. :flamed:
 
I thank everyone for they're info, and based on what I read, I decided to give him a shot in the 55g before sticking him in the unestablished tank, and to my surprise, my aggressive cichlids didn't bully him(as of yet). So hopefully I won't have to set up the other tank after all (but I now have a few pieces of krill in there in hopes of cycling it so when I get another fish(Inevitable) it will have a cycled home.) :-)
 
I have used bottles of cycle before that seemed to help cycle a tank but using a dirty filter from an established tank works better (and cheaper).

As for putting raw shrimp in the tank to start a cycle, I feed my 320g tank about 15 prawn and 5 - 10 super worms each day. The fish do eat all the food but the waste has to go somewhere. That's what the bacteria and the water changes are for. Some people even use bleach (ammonia) to start a cycle. As long as the water is tested and there is very little nitrates and no ammonia left, you are good to go. I don't like using fish to jump start a cycle, it seems kind of cruel to me.
 
DubaiPond;3027880; said:
Doning my flame proof suit...

I've done it several times before with my various arows and not had a problem.

"various" arows huh? I'll sure all your arows are alive and well huh?


Bderick67;3030792; said:
Yes it is hard to believe. Bad enough that we have the uneducated practicing this, but to preach this to others is ludacris:nilly:

I think the basic problem that we have here are people who "get away" with wrong practices and fish that survive end up concluding that the right way is optional and that wrong way is acceptable.

When you see a train coming, wait until it's about 20 feet from you, then try to jump across the rails. If you don't get hit, then tell everyone else that it's SAFE to do that. Do remind them to wear their flame proof suit first before they jump, that helps.

Just because your fish survived doesn't make it RIGHT!
 
I know this is an old thread, but since it's been bumped, I'll ask the question.

If you have a new tank and use a cycled filter, doesn't that make the new tank cycled. I keep extra hob's just for this purpose, so if I get a new tank, I have established media that can seed the new filter without the need for cycling. What would be the difference between putting an established hob on a new tank and doing with a 90% water change on a tank with an hob...besides 10% of the water?
 
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