Article: Your thoughts on hybrids...

[xEchOx]

Do you know most angelfish, discus, bettas are already hybrids in your average LFS?

Please explain. I've never heard of discus or angelfish being hybrids.

 

[IrnGynt]

well that was not the only reason I wrote, hybrids is highly unnatural and a product of man plying god.
on the other hand I cant take ppl that like hybrids serious

It's unnatural to keep a fish in a glass box.

I don't get this type of anti-FH rhetoric. I can understand those not wanting to muddy the pure-bred stock, but "playing God"?? Or unnatural?? The basic premise of fish keeping is unnatural. Good hobbyists try to make things as natural as possible but even the best attempts are a far cry from natural habitat.

 

[xEchOx]

Well said.

 

[beantickler]

Please explain. I've never heard of discus or angelfish being hybrids.

Ya i'm down for an explanation also... Maybe he is confusing line breeding with hybrid breeding?

 

[xEchOx]

Ya i'm down for an explanation also... Maybe he is confusing line breeding with hybrid breeding?

That sounds like a likely explanation.

 

[fishfreak317]

well MOST angelfish are inter species hybrids from a few different species within the same genus or parent group of fishes. these type of hybrids are called interspecific hybrids or crosses.

MOST discus are intra-specific hybrids meaning they are hybrids between different sub-species within a species. this is where the "man made" discus fall into.

so there is your answer to that question. however there are wild variations in both angelfish and discus. which are rather dull and not eye catching with colors.

 

[xEchOx]

well MOST angelfish are inter species hybrids from a few different species within the same genus or parent group of fishes. these type of hybrids are called interspecific hybrids or crosses.

MOST discus are intra-specific hybrids meaning they are hybrids between different sub-species within a species. this is where the "man made" discus fall into.

I don't know how others feel about that topic, but I hardly consider inter-species breeding hybrids. The fish have the exact same genetic make-up but because they are found in different parts of a river or lake, they are considered separate species? Sounds like splitting hairs to me.

 

[FishFreak95]

hybridizing is not playing god. building your own animal from scratch(if possible) or geneticaly modifying an animal i think is playing god. hybridising is just crossing 2 of gods creations. Also i think that if the only way to hybridize a certain fish is artaficialy, it shouldnt be done.

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[FishFreak95]

and our current "domesticated" angelfish might be a hybrid of scarlare subspecies and might include the tear drop angelfish.
im saying MIGHT. no one can be sure though without genetic testing
and species in different areas do have very small genetic and sometimes physical differences

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[xEchOx]

hybridizing is not playing god. building your own animal from scratch

Please explain what you mean by 'building from scratch'.

(if possible) or geneticaly modifying an animal i think is playing god. hybridising is just crossing 2 of gods creations.

That's exactly what crossing two fish of different species is... the offspring will have DNA and Genes different from each parent. So technically you are genetically modifying these animals.

Also i think that if the only way to hybridize a certain fish is artaficialy, it shouldnt be done.

Which fish are artificially crossed?