ATTN. PETA..........

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DeLgAdO said:
heres the scienific explination

FISH DO NOT HAVE THE BRAIN DEVELOPMENT THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE PSYCHOLOGICAL EXPERIENCE OF PAIN OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF AWARENESS

The experience of pain depends on functions of our complex, enlarged cerebral hemispheres. The unpleasant emotional aspect of pain is generated by specific regions of the human cerebral hemispheres, especially the frontal lobes. The functional activity of these frontal lobe regions is closely tied to the emotional aspect of pain in humans and damage of these brain regions in people eliminates the unpleasantness of pain. These regions do not exist in a fish brain. Therefore, a fish doesn’t appear to have the neurological capacity to experience the unpleasant psychological aspect of pain. This point is especially important, because some opponents of fishing have argued that fish are capable of feeling pain because some of the lower, subcortical nervous system pathways important for nociception are present in fish. Obviously this argument has no validity because without the special frontal lobe regions that are essential for pain experiences, lower pathways alone can’t produce this experience. The rapid, well-coordinated escape responses of a fish to nociceptive stimuli are generated automatically at brainstem and spinal cord levels but, if a fish’s brainstem and spinal cord work like a humans (and it is very likely that they do) there is no awareness of neural activity occurring at these levels.

How can u say fish don't feel pain? Pain is the bodies response to something that you're doing that isn't good for your body. And for you to stop whatever you're doing and get the hell out of there. Its a survival response.
 
DeLgAdO said:
you are still incorrect

what make a large fish any different from feeling pain than a small one?

a fish is a fish, they all dont feel pain like human being or any other animals that feel pain at our levels

fish may not be able to feel pain as we do, but like us they still have a well cordianted escape response (fight or flight) that is generated at brain stem or spinal cord level.

if a fishes brain stem and spinal cord worked like a persons they would have no awareness of the fact that it hurts like a *****


hahaha, the age old argument of fish feeling pain.


guess what.



they do.


Dare to say I am incorrect?
 
I've tried to stay out of this one...but I can't anymore! Fish are lower level animals, their perception might differ from ours, however, probably could feel "pain", which itself is subjective.

As far as animal cruelty, I am strongly against mindless suffering or torture to any living being.

PETA.... they're mostly all :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:

However, in the wild, nature, animals eat each other, and pain and suffering is inevitable. Different people have different moral values and standards. Tatooing a fish, in my opinion is :screwy: :screwy: However...its not much worse than breeding feeder goldfish and feeding them to larger fish. Or breeding cows and chicken for our stomach. Its all relative.
 
fugupuff said:
I've tried to stay out of this one...but I can't anymore! Fish are lower level animals, their perception might differ from ours, however, probably could feel "pain", which itself is subjective.

As far as animal cruelty, I am strongly against mindless suffering or torture to any living being.

PETA.... they're mostly all :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:

However, in the wild, nature, animals eat each other, and pain and suffering is inevitable. Different people have different moral values and standards. Tatooing a fish, in my opinion is :screwy: :screwy: However...its not much worse than breeding feeder goldfish and feeding them to larger fish. Or breeding cows and chicken for our stomach. Its all relative.

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fugupuff said:
I've tried to stay out of this one...but I can't anymore! Fish are lower level animals, their perception might differ from ours, however, probably could feel "pain", which itself is subjective.

As far as animal cruelty, I am strongly against mindless suffering or torture to any living being.

PETA.... they're mostly all :screwy: :screwy: :screwy:

However, in the wild, nature, animals eat each other, and pain and suffering is inevitable. Different people have different moral values and standards. Tatooing a fish, in my opinion is :screwy: :screwy: However...its not much worse than breeding feeder goldfish and feeding them to larger fish. Or breeding cows and chicken for our stomach. Its all relative.

There is a difference between free cruelty, and survival. Fish eat fish, this is nature. You eat proteins, also nature's way. Humans farming animals for food, that's evolution...not cruelty. The animals are taken care of properly until death.

Let a fish eat a feeder in your tank...you are reproducing nature's way. How do you explain a sick guy that tatoos this sh$t on a fish to be able to sell it...that's cruel and greedy. Now i'm not even talking about the one who buys it...

/vent off.
 
IMO fish look better au natural, the tatoos, dye jobs, and lip rings just detract from their beauty. Of course I feel the same way about women but I guess that is just my own taste.

Several years ago I saw an oscar that had small gold rings in its gill covers, they did not seem to upset the fish but looked pretty silly, like nipple rings on a cow.
 
guppy said:
IMO fish look better au natural, the tatoos, dye jobs, and lip rings just detract from their beauty. Of course I feel the same way about women but I guess that is just my own taste.

Several years ago I saw an oscar that had small gold rings in its gill covers, they did not seem to upset the fish but looked pretty silly, like nipple rings on a cow.

I've heard of tatooing fish but giving them piercings, thats just ****** up. I also don't agree with tatooing fish i think it looks stupid.
 
He said they do:)
 
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