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[mjuniorc]

i need lights to take some pictures but i agree

you still lookin @ them with NO lights... when we talked the other day.. you told me they are lookin GREAT.... NOW i question your theory of them lookin like stunners if you cant see them...hahahaha j/k

 

[bOOsteN aUdI]

lol i have lights just not my nice t5s.. send me pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[channarox]

nice cichla!
ive been told that kelbs are the none aggressive kind as well...my tems are constantly sparring with everything LOL.

 

[X-Tank]

I encountered this person's post about his kelberi. I thought it was really cool to see the transformation. From picture 4 to 5 still needs some explanation. I am very sure it was the same fish.

 

[channarox]

I encountered this person's post about his kelberi. I thought it was really cool to see the transformation. From picture 4 to 5 still needs some explanation. I am very sure it was the same fish.

DAYUM....

 

[Scatocephalus]

I encountered this person's post about his kelberi. I thought it was really cool to see the transformation. From picture 4 to 5 still needs some explanation. I am very sure it was the same fish.

While this is a great looking fish, I would argue that it is not a kelberi.

One of the defining characteristics of kelberi is the presence in adults of small light spots on pelvic and anal fins, and lower lobe of caudal fin. This fish shows none of the above. Granted, this fish may not be adult but it should be showing hints of spotting in the listed fins. I see none.

 

[Venom SS]

I encountered this person's post about his kelberi. I thought it was really cool to see the transformation. From picture 4 to 5 still needs some explanation. I am very sure it was the same fish.

If you look clsoe at small details on the fish, it is the same fish. An amazing progression I must say. The first few pics look alot like my Kelberi now, cant wait for him to turn!

While this is a great looking fish, I would argue that it is not a kelberi.

One of the defining characteristics of kelberi is the presence in adults of small light spots on pelvic and anal fins, and lower lobe of caudal fin. This fish shows none of the above. Granted, this fish may not be adult but it should be showing hints of spotting in the listed fins. I see none.

I also somewhat agree here, but I think we are witnessing the birth of something new to be honest. These Kelberi that we have got from Rapps recently are not showing the typical anal and pelvic spangling that we have all come to know. But, we also need to keep in mind that Kelberi are and have been very rare in the hobby. Alot of us had never even seen one untill recently. Whos to say that these we have arent a sub species of Kelberi that dont show these traits? Or possibly the pelvic / anal development didnt or isnt happening due to some unknown factor like a specific water parameter they require. But just for the sake of questioning, lets say that only Kelberi show the pelvic and anal spangling. If that is or were the case per say, then what species do we all have here? These fish we are calling Kelberi are NOT Monos, Orinos, Ocels, Tems, Pinima, etc...that is clear. If they arent Kelberi then we still have something very special here...just what are they? I still think they are Kelberi, but maybe not the species that we commonly see in the pics that float around. All species show alot of variation and in some cases it can be hard to determine what the fish is, even as an adult. If these fish develop the entire body spangling like the progression pics a few posts back, and they arent Kelberi, then I will be even more happy because we will have something really special on our hands.

 

[RedTailKinG]

who has these for sale ??? hymmmm

 

[High City Rida]

I agree that saying just because they don't exibit what we seen three yeras ago in the Kelberi imported then does not mean that these are not Kelberi that we have obtained now. I have learned one thing from this site alone. No one person can tell you exactlly what you have because they themselves are looking in there tank and compairing but evoloution is not a compariable variable it is ever changing and can't be pinpointed down to what you seen in the past. We must be paitent and learn from the changes were seeing curently in the hobby today.

I do aggree with Scat also about tale tale signs of any perticular fish and a ceartin size and age should exibit simularity's no matter what. If true sp charachteristic's of the same sub sp. remain the same then Scat is correct. But if we entertain the ever changing "Evolution Theroy" and I have read this in recent PDF's then Venom I believe you are on to something as I was when I stated this months ago. But as we all know only time will tell. I do not think the Cichla were talking about 3 post before is a Kelberi though but instead another sp. entirely with amazing spangaling. I also do not think we will see anything as nice as what Scat has displayed unless we get the same collection point and offspring. A one in a million chance. But I am happy with what have and also from all the information stated in the previous two post is the exact reason why I didn't put all my eggs into one basket and will grab a few more from diffrent collection points and diffrent imoprt's. Just to document for my ow personal experince in the vast diffrences in Cichla in the same tributory with drastic diffrence's of apperance. I mean look at the uniform wide spread of the third bar on all the Kelberi just recently purchased. That alone is amazing and could offer reason to the nah sayer's. There bars are to far split apart! There not Kelberi for that reason? I don't think so I but it could be said.

 

[R1_Ridah]

I encountered this person's post about his kelberi. I thought it was really cool to see the transformation. From picture 4 to 5 still needs some explanation. I am very sure it was the same fish.

Very interesting. I would also agree that this is not a Kelberi.

Maybe [SIZE=+2]Cichla nigromaculata[/SIZE]

http://www.worlddiscus.com/cichla/nigromaculata.html