Awesome tank planning
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Yeah, I'm not getting an Asian aro. There are some beautiful ones, but even a fish that looks like it's forged from solid gold is not worth the risk. They're illegal, not to mention critically endangered.
I also can't keep stingrays. Like the aros, they're cool, but they aren't worth it.
So does anyone know of a fairly large fish, other than an actual goldfish, that's gold and is legal to keep in Texas?
I also can't keep stingrays. Like the aros, they're cool, but they aren't worth it.
So does anyone know of a fairly large fish, other than an actual goldfish, that's gold and is legal to keep in Texas?
The golden shovelnose catfish is full grown @ 13 inches... the gar is a golden fl gar
The only small shovelnose I can find anything about is the Lima shovelnose, which maxes out at about a foot long in aquaria, and I can't find anything about golden ones for sale anywhere.
And that gar? Very pretty, but if I could afford a golden florida gar, I'd put actual gold coins in this tank. A robot fish would probably be cheaper.
When I say I'm looking for a golden fish, I don't mean a species where I might possibly be able to get a rare leucistic specimen for a couple thousand dollars. I'd actually prefer something that's gold-colored, as in shiny and metallic, as opposed to something that's sorta yellowish. If that's not possible, then I'd need a species where leucistic individuals are being bred and are therefore easily available and not worth their weight in gold.
Discus are nice, but they're a bit too fussy for this tank. They're afraid of everything and the silver dollars would probably trounce them to death trying to play.
I need fish that are suitable for a tank somewhere around 200g, not fish that get as long as a 200g. Arapima are just too large for anything, and giant gourami are pushing it.
I like peacock bass, but wouldn't they just gulp everything down? And aren't jardinis really aggressive?
Siamese tigers are gorgeous, and as far as I know they're legal to keep, but aren't they brackish water fish?
And that gar? Very pretty, but if I could afford a golden florida gar, I'd put actual gold coins in this tank. A robot fish would probably be cheaper.
When I say I'm looking for a golden fish, I don't mean a species where I might possibly be able to get a rare leucistic specimen for a couple thousand dollars. I'd actually prefer something that's gold-colored, as in shiny and metallic, as opposed to something that's sorta yellowish. If that's not possible, then I'd need a species where leucistic individuals are being bred and are therefore easily available and not worth their weight in gold.
Discus are nice, but they're a bit too fussy for this tank. They're afraid of everything and the silver dollars would probably trounce them to death trying to play.
I need fish that are suitable for a tank somewhere around 200g, not fish that get as long as a 200g. Arapima are just too large for anything, and giant gourami are pushing it.
I like peacock bass, but wouldn't they just gulp everything down? And aren't jardinis really aggressive?
Siamese tigers are gorgeous, and as far as I know they're legal to keep, but aren't they brackish water fish?
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No no no only silver and New Guinea dats are brackish trust me I have a brackish tank and I've done research but many uneducated fish store employees and owners will stick them all in brackish this is bad these fish will become stressed and die in brackish water if kept this way for a long period of time, and jardini can be aggressive it depends on the particular fish peacocks really aren't that bad their about the same as any cichlid if it fits it will be eaten but depending on the other fish you get it may not matter
Siamese tiger (ST) are rare and expensive, well over 1k. It would be much cheaper to get an Indonesian tiger (IT) because they are readily available and by comparison dirt cheap. They are full fresh, the silver datnoid is brackish. They can be a bit aggressive but ime they are very timid but great eaters, most will eat any fish they can fit in their mouth but exceptions exist.
The base of my stock is definitely going to be the silver dollars. Exact number will vary depending on stock level and exactly what type of silvers I get, but 8ish is a good assumption. Silver dollar temp requirement is 75-82F, they aren't a threat to anything (aside from maybe tasting a fin or two), and they're far too big to be eaten.
Next fish is a royal pleco. Temp requirements 74-79F, somewhat territorial but probably not an issue given the potential tank size, won't eat anything, too large to be eaten.
I'm going to skip the gold nugget pleco, I think. They're gorgeous, but a bit too small.
Third fish I'd like is a leopard ctenopoma. Temp is 68-82F, not really all that territorial, won't eat anything I'll keep, too large to be eaten.
Fourth fish is a bichir. I'd love a gold dust, but I think they might be a bit too small to keep with some of the others. Temp for birchirs varies but is within the range of the others. Shouldn't be any trouble with the others as long as it has a good cave.
I see no reason why those fish would be incompatible. Temperatures are all compatible, none of them will eat each other, none of them will murder each other, and as far as I'm aware, none of them have any special requirements aside from the pleco needing driftwood.
I do have one question: will the pleco potentially damage things? I don't mind if it chews on the chest, but could it potentially eat the acrylic clear-coat off of things?
Fish I'm considering:
Indonesian tiger datnoid. Temp is 68-82F, not aggressive towards non-conspecifics (would he clash with the cteno? I can skip it), absolutely too big to be eaten. How large is the average Indo dat's mouth? What could he fit? I really want one of these guys, but I'd need to figure out what he would threaten. I'm guessing a gold dust bichir would probably be a bit too small to be safe, but what about a larger one?
Jewel cichlid. Temp is 72-82F, won't be eaten, but aggression may be a concern. How mean would a solo jewel be, without a mate and eggs to fight about?
I'd love a peacock bass of some sort, but they have huge mouths and some of them are quite large. What's the smallest species, and how big is its mouth?
Next fish is a royal pleco. Temp requirements 74-79F, somewhat territorial but probably not an issue given the potential tank size, won't eat anything, too large to be eaten.
I'm going to skip the gold nugget pleco, I think. They're gorgeous, but a bit too small.
Third fish I'd like is a leopard ctenopoma. Temp is 68-82F, not really all that territorial, won't eat anything I'll keep, too large to be eaten.
Fourth fish is a bichir. I'd love a gold dust, but I think they might be a bit too small to keep with some of the others. Temp for birchirs varies but is within the range of the others. Shouldn't be any trouble with the others as long as it has a good cave.
I see no reason why those fish would be incompatible. Temperatures are all compatible, none of them will eat each other, none of them will murder each other, and as far as I'm aware, none of them have any special requirements aside from the pleco needing driftwood.
I do have one question: will the pleco potentially damage things? I don't mind if it chews on the chest, but could it potentially eat the acrylic clear-coat off of things?
Fish I'm considering:
Indonesian tiger datnoid. Temp is 68-82F, not aggressive towards non-conspecifics (would he clash with the cteno? I can skip it), absolutely too big to be eaten. How large is the average Indo dat's mouth? What could he fit? I really want one of these guys, but I'd need to figure out what he would threaten. I'm guessing a gold dust bichir would probably be a bit too small to be safe, but what about a larger one?
Jewel cichlid. Temp is 72-82F, won't be eaten, but aggression may be a concern. How mean would a solo jewel be, without a mate and eggs to fight about?
I'd love a peacock bass of some sort, but they have huge mouths and some of them are quite large. What's the smallest species, and how big is its mouth?
I've just discovered Kelberi peacock bass, and they are gorgeous. Perfect golden centerpiece fish! I can't seem to find a consensus on maximum size, though. Some sources say 9"-11", some say more like 18", and there doesn't seem to be a consensus on tank size. Anyone have a definite size?
Also, how big are their mouths?
Also, how big are their mouths?
