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GhostShrimpMan;4400780; said:
What are we going to do with you :grinno:

Moral of the thread, don't feed live, and fish will live for more than a week without food.

Meeting adjourned! ;]
While this may be good advice for most, certain predatory species benefit from live feedings. I feed live foods in addition to a well rounded diet including pellets, market shrimp, night crawlers, scallops, krill, live feeders and bite size cut up fish filets.

If you check my sig line, you can see I keep lots of large predatory guapotes in a community setting. It has been my personal experience that live foods keep predatory piscavores like guapotes "happy". Keeping them happy is a large part of my success at having all five Parachromis species (all adults) including several breeding pairs together in the same tank.

For example, I feed three dozen night crawlers once a week. Also once a week or every other week, I feed eight dozen comets. They're all gone in minutes. And it gives the fishes a chance to be what nature has designed them to be, ambush hunters. These fishes were designed by nature to be killer piscavores. Denying this natural behavior can lead to unhappiness which can lead to nuisance aggression which can lead to murders of tankmates.

Now with that said, live foods aren't for everyone. A safe supply of live foods is of the utmost importance. A quality UV sterilizer is good insurance to guard against possible disease (and a good insurance policy in general regardless of the type of foods offered). You also need to make sure the amount of waste produced by the addition of live foods doesn't overwhelm your filtration's abilities. This isn't as much of a concern in a larger tank with a large filter.

Say what you will, but I call it like I see it from my real world experience instead of regurgitating conventional wisdom as if it were gospel. If I had listened to the conventional wisdom, I wouldn't have the stock list I have together for years without murders.
 

biohazardcustomz

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terd ferguson;4401318; said:
While this may be good advice for most, certain predatory species benefit from live feedings. I feed live foods in addition to a well rounded diet including pellets, market shrimp, night crawlers, scallops, krill, live feeders and bite size cut up fish filets.
i agree as well with you as well variety is much better for the fish. and feeders are not the devil contrary to popular belief. lol. i also feed some of my fish feeders but only as a treat. its not good to feed only feeders tho. except my asian gar. he wont eat anything but rosy reds.
 

krzr3000

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I'm not for flaming and attacking the OP. BUT...he ignores advice when he asks questions. On top of that, take a look at his youtube page posted in his sig. There are some questionable vids..
 

LowCel

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convict84;4401358; said:
i wouldnt have done what the op done,i do agree with the above post,certain fish do need live food now and again
This can be argued all day but I can honestly say that I have some very happy, healthy, beautiful fish and they have never had live food.
 

manlyfish

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i will...lol



and heres the vid :(
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Gruff Master

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I checked out the youtube link provided to view the OP tanks. First of all, I commend him for being able to run several tanks at such an early age. When I was 13 I don't think I had the maturity or patience to even take care of one goldfish correctly. That being said, there are obviously some things that he has to learn about fish keeping like proper stocking and water parameters. If he sticks around here long enough I'm sure he will be a fine fish keeper. Everyone should just be patient with him and help him along the way. Remember he is 13. Hurting the kid's feelings won't help him or his fish.
 

vfrstephen

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I use one of these fish feeders, the food lasts 4-5 weeks.

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Lupin

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What is with the necessity of being rude here and why is this becoming a trend lately?:screwy: Those who are trying to instantly attack with intention as well to provoke further inflammatory posts and derailment are hereby warned only ONCE. Make no mistake. If the staff sees the same crowd trying to disrespect other members, then, we will not hesitate to penalize you accordingly.

Note: The staff is receiving many complaints recently of this trend. This must stop NOW.
 

manlyfish

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Gruff Master;4404487; said:
I checked out the youtube link provided to view the OP tanks. First of all, I commend him for being able to run several tanks at such an early age. When I was 13 I don't think I had the maturity or patience to even take care of one goldfish correctly. That being said, there are obviously some things that he has to learn about fish keeping like proper stocking and water parameters. If he sticks around here long enough I'm sure he will be a fine fish keeper. Everyone should just be patient with him and help him along the way. Remember he is 13. Hurting the kid's feelings won't help him or his fish.
i don't think we should hurt his feelings but we should help guide him to improvement...but if we just let the hes just 13 excuse he might never improve we should give him advice as to how he can improve his stocking, and all that

-i apologize for flaming
 
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