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here is my proof of what i think is a clean food. first pic is right after feeding shrimp. second is right after feeding pellets. now i have to do a minni water change just like every time i feed pellets just to get the scraps out.

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I do not feed anything else besides pellets based on bad experience i had, as explained.
I am convinced that nowadays you don't need to feed anything more than good quality pellets.

I am convinced that there is a risk that some piece of whatever gets hidden and that if it happens it gets spoiled quicker than pellets. And that takes a toll in the water.

And i am convinced that any pellet that gets to the bottom gets eaten more probably than any piece of whatever that was refused or lost.

My experience tells me that fish will still search for pellets for far longer than whatever.

I am convinced that whatever is not eaten right away it won t be picked up and eaten again.

With my fish if i fed one piece of food at a time, the less agro ones would never eat. Simple as that.

I never cooked food, in any case. Fed it raw. And no, if it was the small shrimp that killed my fish i did not notice anything wrong with it.

Now i think i explained my reasoning more than once.

Fish do not die, are lively and healthy and my filtration systems seem to be doing their job.

You have your experience and your results. Fine with me. You seem to want me to validate your method. I won't. I won't out of my personal experience.

i do not want you to validate anything. you have explained it. thats all i wanted. i just wanted and still want for people to see they can feed what ever they want, if it is pellets only or a mixed diet.

if you ask some members fish can just die. when i had the pesticide kill my aros and catfish, that is what a few people said. my water was 0, 0, 20 and some how all those future monsters in my tank died. they said it was not from the pesticide, but from me having all those large fish. so in THEIR words your fish died because you didnt have enough filtration amd your tank couldnt handle all them large fish. the shrimp is not the issue for your fish deaths.

i believe your fish died from a bad batch of food. it can happen.


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What pellets do you feed. That second pix is surely disgusting and a water change is, in fact, in order.

Even so, water quality is not shown in pix, unless it is really a dramatic situation.
 
What pellets do you feed. That second pix is surely disgusting and a water change is, in fact, in order.

Even so, water quality is not shown in pix, unless it is really a dramatic situation.

i feed a small pellet from a aquaculture place. i am tring to remember the name, but am blanking it. it gets this way even with hikari. they chew the pellets and then the small bit fall to the bottom and nothing is small enough to eat it. so i have to clean it out. the point of the pic is if you leave it like that your water will be garbage. if you clean it, it wont. if i feed only pellets this is an every feeding kind of thing. the first pic is taken the same time after a feeding, but with shrimp insted of pellets. no wc needed. i have to wait a little bit after a feed to do a wc so my cuban wont vomit.

now if i had rocks for a substright you wouldnt be able to see the pellet mess. i would never know it was there if i didnt look for it. water would be distroyed. that is why i am saying pellets are no as clean ad one might think. before i had sand i thought the same way as you do about pellets. sand has opened the window and i can see what i missed before. in a clean bear bottom tank it all would get sucked into a filter to rot.

i made the flow si that it would collect there so i can clean it easily since i like to feed pellets in a mixed diet.


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I never feed a huge quantity, neither do i feed everyday.

Food that falls into the sump gets collected in the sockets.
 
I find that Hikari is more prone to create that dust than , say, NLS. the latter is somewhat more solid and gets eaten straight, with very little debris out of mouth or gills.
 
I never feed a huge quantity, neither do i feed everyday.

Food that falls into the sump gets collected in the sockets.

unless you do a daily sock change, you still have the same problem as i do with pellet scraps. the water still passes through the roting pellet waste causing the same toll you mentioned for anti other foods.


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I find that Hikari is more prone to create that dust than , say, NLS. the latter is somewhat more solid and gets eaten straight, with very little debris out of mouth or gills.

i agree hikari is more dusty then large chunks. i have never used nls so i cant say if that would be better for my gar tank or not. all my other foods are eatten streight with no debris out the gills. that is one reason why i recomend it.


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