Best Submersible Bio Media?

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C'mon Diddy, we love these "discussions"....... lol

We all know anything works for bio. Lava rock, sand, even GI Joe figures. But that's NOT why this thread was started. It was started to find out what's best.....

Maybe they should do what I did. Contact the leading ray breeders in the country and use the same thing they use. Who else would have more money riding on their choice of bio then someone with thousands or even hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of livestock relying on it?

You have to admit though, if only 1/200 people use chips, yet both the leading ray producers use them, that's a heck of a coinky dink right? lol
 
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coinky dink alright:ROFL:
 
DIDYSIS said:
I am not going to get in an argument or what over bio media (especially chips which are delicious to eat) and this is all I am going to say but honestly look and see how many people use Chips, maybe 1 out of 100 or 200, I get the idea but maybe thats the flaw in normal K1, that it is actually to small to provide area to protect such small animals, I do not know and I have not done personal studies, heck I would need to use a lab with some high end stuff to see and prove it and I do not have the time or space, But also the boil rate and a lot of other stuff we all do different can make big difference in the bio media we all keep, I think boil rate is something we all could work on getting a more exact from but I figure with my system some boils faster in spots some slower, a good conbination but a study to compare the effects sure would be fun to do, If anyone has any ideas on how to best do one and have it exact let me know, would be fun to get up 4 5 gallon tanks and do the same for all of them with bio media same food and such.

But I look at it like this, WHAT WORKS WORKS, And they all seem to work just fine.

One manufacturer with have a chart showing his is the best, another manufacturer will show a study or chart showing his is the best, and another and another and another and another, all of them picking on each other and saying what is the best. So which is the best--- They all must be(yahoo!! we can have anything we want) going off the studies even done by 3rd parties that only tell the truth and not what product they sell, They all come up with different answers on what is best in the study. So if you want to quote a chart or study go for it but also other studies have been done that say other wise just as much so what about that? Was is a true study? What about the first was it? Who cares, WHAT WORKS WORKS!!!

Overall to me it means they all work and can get the job done fairly easy for what we throw at them, Pick your favorite Flavor and go for it as they all will work plenty well as long as you have it setup right.
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Like you said they all work

I find it very ironic that they are trying so hard to develop a media where microorganisms (microanimals????) flourish, like sand.

...and if anyone who bought the chips could tell me where they got the Vortecilia I'd appreciate it
 
raideranch said:
...and if anyone who bought the chips could tell me where they got the Vortecilia I'd appreciate it
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Walmart. Isle 9 next to the restroom supplies.

While you're there could you pick me up some Ol' Roy? I figured since fish food and dog food all work the same I'm just going to start feeding my rays dog food since it's so much cheaper then frozen food.
 
DB junkie said:
Walmart. Isle 9 next to the restroom supplies.

While you're there could you pick me up some Ol' Roy? I figured since fish food and dog food all work the same I'm just going to start feeding my rays dog food since it's so much cheaper then frozen food.
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Nice, I got mine at the lake with the free sand.
 
raideranch said:
Nice, I got mine at the lake with the free sand.
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Lucky......

I'd love to run free sand as bio but unfortunately I can't hire someone to babysit a sand filter in case it needs restarted after a power cut which we have on a pretty regular basis in the Midwest. Takes a lot to gain my trust, but these stinking moving beds seem to restart just fine every time......
 
DB junkie said:
Lucky......

I'd love to run free sand as bio but unfortunately I can't hire someone to babysit a sand filter in case it needs restarted after a power cut which we have on a pretty regular basis in the Midwest. Takes a lot to gain my trust, but these stinking moving beds seem to restart just fine every time......
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That would suck.

I like to think of the light sand I use in the bottom of my tanks as "moving beds" powered by the fish and flow...some of its always moving, some of its more "protected"...idk, what do you think
 
...no one?

If they all work we should be discussing the best microorganisms...maybe they already have (adding septic tank bacteria to improve water quality, clarity)

...is your UV light helping or hurting you?
 
ultimatejay said:
There is a sticky on media and surface area of different media. Lava rock has the lowest surface area of them all and highest was matrix or ceramic rings


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i cant see ceramic rings having a higher surface area than prorus media.

bio filtration is all about surface area. porus media has more surface area than non porus.
i think i was told that a teaspoon full of activated charcoal has the surface area equivalent to a football pitch.
 
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