Bichers in brackish water?!?!?!?!?!

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Could you explain how?

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Snakeheads and walking catfish are if not the most then one of the most hardy fish out there. They can survive on land as well. Bichirs are fully aquatic and are not nearly as hardy. Snakeheads can live in ANY if not ALL types of water, and same thing for walking catfish.

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Snakeheads and walking catfish are if not the most then one of the most hardy fish out there. They can survive on land as well. Bichirs are fully aquatic and are not nearly as hardy. Snakeheads can live in ANY if not ALL types of water, and same thing for walking catfish.

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I thought bichirs were hardy to? I thought all atmospheric breathers could live on land for some quit awhile. The only diff I can see is that bichirs need tropical temps and snakeheads, walking cats, and gars don't. If the temps are correct I don't see why? Unless there are some internal or physical reasons why.

I'm not saying do it though, it's an interesting topic though.

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Well you never know they are atmospheric breathers they same has been done to alligator gars. Not even brakish all the way to salt. But their origin allows them to with their river beige connected directly to the ocean. So they can easily get back to fresh. Im not sure on bichirs. But shouldnt they able to just not bichers n gars why not walking catfish also? And snakeheads? Since they don't need to breath water.

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Do you not have any understanding of osmosis in fish, or are you just trolling?
 
I thought bichirs were hardy to? I thought all atmospheric breathers could live on land for some quit awhile. The only diff I can see is that bichirs need tropical temps and snakeheads, walking cats, and gars don't. If the temps are correct I don't see why? Unless there are some internal or physical reasons why.

I'm not saying do it though, it's an interesting topic though.

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An atmospheric air-breathing fish can only live out of water until it dries out (I believe this is the same for all of them), but surviving out of water and surviving in saline water are two completely different things. A freshwater fish in saltwater would become like a salt sponge, as the water moves down the concentration gradient, and when the salinity in its body gets too high, it would die.
 
I'm not trolling I'm just asking questions

Why do they absorb the salt? Are you talking physically through the skin? What makes snakeheads,walking cats, and gar so special then? Besides the fact bichirs only need tropical temps. In nature are the bichirs "area" connected to an ocean? Or are they pretty far from it?


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I'm not trolling I'm just asking questions

Why do they absorb the salt? Are you talking physically through the skin? What makes snakeheads,walking cats, and gar so special then? Besides the fact bichirs only need tropical temps. In nature are the bichirs "area" connected to an ocean? Or are they pretty far from it?


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Okay, a basic explanation of osmosis:

Because of osmosis, water is drawn from areas of low salt concentration to areas of high salt concentration. With saltwater fish, the concentration of salt in their external environment is higher than that within their bodies, so the water is constantly drawn out of them. To compensate, they constantly drink water, which creates an equilibrium. With freshwater fish, the concentration of salt within their bodies is higher than that of their external environment, so they are constantly absorbing water. To create their equilibrium, they have to urinate constantly. If you put a freshwater fish in saltwater, it will have a lower salt concentration in its body than in its external environment, so it will be losing water the same way a saltwater fish will, but it will continue to urinate rather than drinking the water as the saltwater fish do, so it will dehydrate and die.

Certain freshwater fishes, like salmon, bull sharks, scats, monos, etc. are able to adapt to environments of different salinities (although until this thread, I've never heard of Chana, Clarias, or gars being in this category), but most cannot, and it has nothing to do with their hardiness in other situations.


Edit: just noticed what I said in the last sentence of my previous post; that was incorrect, I'm not sure what I was thinking there. :nilly:
 
Snakeheads and walking catfish are if not the most then one of the most hardy fish out there. They can survive on land as well. Bichirs are fully aquatic and are not nearly as hardy. Snakeheads can live in ANY if not ALL types of water, and same thing for walking catfish.

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i would like to see the studies done on this... and OP. bichir are not brackish/sw fish... very very few brackish fish are truely brackish... most are either fw or sw and only travel to the other extreme for birthing/procreation... then most Die.... salmon being one of the most well known.
 
I wouldn't try it, Andrew aren't you that guy who keep posting ridiculous threads about a 500g tank you havent even started building yet?
 
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