Big ole Texas needs your help

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predatorkeeper87 said:
yes. I'm going to say if he isn't eating and this is in fact columnaris, he may be to far gone. That's not to say you shouldn't treat him but the community tank should be your main focus now seeing as they've all been exposed.
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Honestly it looks like duck lips from the images I have researched. He has not been eating for a few days and most people say its such a high mortality rate that even treating him there is a slim chance for survival. I will try to save him and be optimistic but not looking so good. I can see he lost some of his weight due to not eating already. Yeah I did a 100 gallon water change and I will do another in this week. I took off my heaters the temps are low and now I will be getting medications I will treat the whole tank.

My water quality is on point I did everything the same and never lost a fish in 8 years to any diseases.

I want to thank everyone who helped me and directed me in the right path. I will have an update hopefully he recovers fingers crossed. I know "duck lips' has high mortality even with treatment but I'm optimistic.
 
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Here is another pic to show before and after so if anyone in the future comes by this thread will know how it looks.

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+1 on the Furan 2 and ketamycin. Also lowering the temperature.

My large Texas came down with duck lips a few months ago. I immediately isolated him to a 20L on the floor of my fishroom (approx 65F) and began treatment (and stopped feeding).

I treated for 2 weeks and the symptoms subsided. I isolated him for another 2-3 months to recover. Unfortunately when I returned him to a large community set-up a couple of months ago, the symptoms came back (after a few weeks). Water or stress related? Who knows. I didn't isolate him immediately and he died in like 2 days. No other fish have symptoms.

Low temp and antibiotics are key.

Matt
 
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dogofwar said:
+1 on the Furan 2 and ketamycin. Also lowering the temperature.

My large Texas came down with duck lips a few months ago. I immediately isolated him to a 20L on the floor of my fishroom (approx 65F) and began treatment (and stopped feeding).

I treated for 2 weeks and the symptoms subsided. I isolated him for another 2-3 months to recover. Unfortunately when I returned him to a large community set-up a couple of months ago, the symptoms came back (after a few weeks). Water or stress related? Who knows. I didn't isolate him immediately and he died in like 2 days. No other fish have symptoms.

Low temp and antibiotics are key.

Matt
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did you treat the main tank? columnaris can persist in a set up for a very long time with no viable hosts. Other fish may have a strong enough immunity to fend off the bacteria on their own and never become infected. That doesn't mean it still isn't present in the system. Whenever I treated my fish for it I had him in a tank with some...replaceable NA natives for a while. Not one of those fish showed any ill effect.
 
Ihsnshaik said:
Honestly it looks like duck lips from the images I have researched. He has not been eating for a few days and most people say its such a high mortality rate that even treating him there is a slim chance for survival. I will try to save him and be optimistic but not looking so good. I can see he lost some of his weight due to not eating already. Yeah I did a 100 gallon water change and I will do another in this week. I took off my heaters the temps are low and now I will be getting medications I will treat the whole tank.

My water quality is on point I did everything the same and never lost a fish in 8 years to any diseases.

I want to thank everyone who helped me and directed me in the right path. I will have an update hopefully he recovers fingers crossed. I know "duck lips' has high mortality even with treatment but I'm optimistic.
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You never know he may pull through. high mortality doesn't automatically mean a death sentence. Your other tank needs treated ASAP however, see my response to the other poster to see why.
 
predatorkeeper87 said:
You never know he may pull through. high mortality doesn't automatically mean a death sentence. Your other tank needs treated ASAP however, see my response to the other poster to see why.
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I didn't - the prospect of treating a 150g for weeks isn't too appealing. Nor is re-establishing the bio filter. No issues apparent on any fish except for the Texas.

Matt
 
Getting off work soon! My lfs thank god has them in stock called them on break. Wish my luck. Anything I should be worried about? Do these meds crash my nitrogen cycle or stain my tank or anything?
I have two huge sponge filters as a backup in my tank thats always running including a 40 gallon sump filled with media.
 
I have the same thing happening now with a wild grp of steindachneri in a community tank, losing them 1 x 1, all others are fine......first time experiencing this...
 
I lost a trio of beani to ducklips a while back during a heat wave. These northern edge (geographically speaking )cichlids seem to be especially susceptible, and most aquarists these days seem to think temps in the 80s are normal. But in Texas and in northern Mexico, at certain times of the year temps tend to drop at night, sometimes into the 60sF, which slows a bacteria such as columnaris down, and make it less virulent.
I stopped using heaters altogether in tanks with species such as carpintus, and beani. After my first infection, these lower temps seemed to keep columnaris in check.
 
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